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Russia and China broke into Snowden files to identify western spies, says MI6

Russia and China broke into Snowden files to identify western spies, says MI6

Downing Street believes that Russian and Chinese intelligence agencies have used documents from whistleblower Edward Snowden to identify British and US secret agents, according to a report in the Sunday Times.

The newspaper says MI6, Britain’s Secret Intelligence Service, has withdrawn agents from overseas operations because Russian security services had broken into encrypted files held by American computer analyst Snowden.

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Russia and China broke into Snowden files to identify western spies, says MI6


This person is not a hero.
Trusting a government spy agency to be a trust worthy source is about is smart as trusting a pedophile around your 6 year old daughter. If you want to trust the people who lied their ****ing ass off to you about spying on the people then go ahead. Besides that the government claiming Snowden gave secrets to the enemy amounts to a bank robber trying to rat someone out for stealing a pack of gum.
 
Trusting a government spy agency to be a trust worthy source is about is smart as trusting a pedophile around your 6 year old daughter. If you want to trust the people who lied their ****ing ass off to you about spying on the people then go ahead. Besides that the government claiming Snowden gave secrets to the enemy amounts to a bank robber trying to rat someone out for stealing a pack of gum.

I completely agree with you James!!!!
 
Trusting a government spy agency to be a trust worthy source is about is smart as trusting a pedophile around your 6 year old daughter. If you want to trust the people who lied their ****ing ass off to you about spying on the people then go ahead. Besides that the government claiming Snowden gave secrets to the enemy amounts to a bank robber trying to rat someone out for stealing a pack of gum.

You nailed it.
 
Trusting a government spy agency to be a trust worthy source is about is smart as trusting a pedophile around your 6 year old daughter. If you want to trust the people who lied their ****ing ass off to you about spying on the people then go ahead. Besides that the government claiming Snowden gave secrets to the enemy amounts to a bank robber trying to rat someone out for stealing a pack of gum.
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Maybe you are not paying attention, but you have said nothing relevant to the information provided.





You nailed it.
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As it was hyperbolic nonsense he couldn't have nailed it.
 
OMG, is this another case of the pot calling the kettle black?
 
:doh And as I already replied.
Just confirming your that your position is based on absurd and conspiratorial thoughts.
Your position is based upon anonymous sources implying that files Snowden stated did not leave Hong Kong have been de-crypted by Russian and Chinese agencies. No proof. No specific source. Another government "Narrative" delivered to Mass Media stenographers and spun to suck in the naive. "Blood on his hands." A slander as the article also states no known injuries of their mythical victims. No documented sources. No official agency statement. Anonymity! Feel sumpin' slippin'?
 
Correct, and I pointed out why. This president that promised enhanced whistleblower protections, has in fact harmed them and along with it, a bit of a stifling of folks coming forward with information on government excess. But then from heavy handed cops to heavy handed government to heavy handed military operations, the right consistently supports excessive government and diminishing power to the people.

That's amazing. You've gotten it completely backwards. Tell me which party the current President, who has prosecuted more whistleblowers than all the previous presidents combined, belongs to. What is his ideology?

Meanwhile, telling the enemy who our foreign secret agents are is treason straight up. It is in no way a legitimate thing for a whistleblower to do, knowingly or not.
 
That's amazing. You've gotten it completely backwards. Tell me which party the current President, who has prosecuted more whistleblowers than all the previous presidents combined, belongs to. What is his ideology?

Meanwhile, telling the enemy who our foreign secret agents are is treason straight up. It is in no way a legitimate thing for a whistleblower to do, knowingly or not.

I don't know what point you're trying to make with that question???? I'm no supporter of a lot of this presidents policies, and as to his party, I'd sooner see the independents in America, truly vote independent, and side line both the ass and the elephant for an administration, and teach those bitches a lesson. I did not say that he has prosecuted more whistle blowers then all other presidents combined, but more than any other president. That's despite the fact that he promised otherwise, which makes it worse, just as his promise to be the most transparent presidency and then actually being the least makes him worse in that regard than Bush, who wasn't very transparent at all, but wasn't pretentious about it either.

To the second point, there's no evidence for that!
 
As well as the fact that government excess and constitutional violations are supported by the fringe right.

I can't speak for the rest of my "Fringe Right" brethren, but i don't support what the NSA did by spying on Americans. But that still doesn't excuse Snowden from releasing boatloads of classified info. He could've told someone instead of stealing and leaking the info.
 
:doh
Maybe you are not paying attention, but you have said nothing relevant to the information provided.
Since what I said seems to went over head your head I will say it in simpler terms.You are trusting the word of know liars who have not offered any actual evidence to support their claim of what they alleged Snowden did. Why on earth would you trust what these people say? You must be one of millions of gullible people who believed Obama when he said "if you like your doctor then you can keep your doctor" seeing how you are so willing to believe known liars.
 
I can't speak for the rest of my "Fringe Right" brethren, but i don't support what the NSA did by spying on Americans. But that still doesn't excuse Snowden from releasing boatloads of classified info. He could've told someone instead of stealing and leaking the info.

The only people claiming Snowden leaked classified info to the enemy are those who lied to the American people about spying on the American people and those who support what the NSA did. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
 
Russia and China broke into Snowden files to identify western spies, says MI6

Downing Street believes that Russian and Chinese intelligence agencies have used documents from whistleblower Edward Snowden to identify British and US secret agents, according to a report in the Sunday Times.

The newspaper says MI6, Britain’s Secret Intelligence Service, has withdrawn agents from overseas operations because Russian security services had broken into encrypted files held by American computer analyst Snowden.

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Russia and China broke into Snowden files to identify western spies, says MI6


This person is not a hero.

Government shouldn't have been doing ****ed up **** that required him to take this action.
 
I can't speak for the rest of my "Fringe Right" brethren, but i don't support what the NSA did by spying on Americans. But that still doesn't excuse Snowden from releasing boatloads of classified info. He could've told someone instead of stealing and leaking the info.

Well I am glad to hear you're opposed to the NSA's unconstitutional actions. Snowden surely was advised against that considering that Obama, despite his promises otherwise, has prosecuted more whistleblowers then his predecessors. Had he kept his word, Snowden could have remained in the country along with the material he possessed.
 
This is a planted narrative to defame Snowden. It states that MI6 "believes" that the encrypted files have been broken. That is simply speculation. This is the "Pentagon Narrative" being Mass Media distributed to promote an agenda. Wake up. On the other hand, the "Narrative" has worked on you. Right inside your cerebellum, don't ya' know?

It is entirely logical that Russia and China would exploit the situation. It's what countries do. To think otherwise is naive. And the last time the identities of our spies were compromised some ended up dead. It's a very serious game.

The man may have had noble intentions but he played right into the hands of Russia and China.
 
If his actions were considered to be controversial so far I honestly can't see him being portrayed as a good guy after that.

He should be locked in prison for the rest of his life.

He might as well be. He can no longer come back to his home country and he is at mercy of the Russians. They can do whatever they want to him and there isn't a damn thing anyone can do to help. He's ****ed.
 
Trusting a government spy agency to be a trust worthy source is about is smart as trusting a pedophile around your 6 year old daughter. If you want to trust the people who lied their ****ing ass off to you about spying on the people then go ahead. Besides that the government claiming Snowden gave secrets to the enemy amounts to a bank robber trying to rat someone out for stealing a pack of gum.

As much as you despise government spy agencies they are a necessary evil and we are all spying on each other including allies. It would be foolish not to if our adversaries are doing it. And believe it or not the information our intelligence operatives get is vital to the nation's security and has saved countless lives. One has only to look at WWII to see what breakthroughs were made by the allies against the Nazis that helped us win the war.

Bashing the west for spying is naive if you know the extent of subterfuge the Chinese and Russians are engaging in.

As a former member of the military with a security clearance I am aghast at what Snowden did. His intentions may have been noble but he played right into the hands of Russia and China and put agents of the west in grave danger.
 
Your position is based upon anonymous sources implying that files Snowden stated did not leave Hong Kong have been de-crypted by Russian and Chinese agencies. No proof. No specific source. Another government "Narrative" delivered to Mass Media stenographers and spun to suck in the naive. "Blood on his hands." A slander as the article also states no known injuries of their mythical victims. No documented sources. No official agency statement. Anonymity! Feel sumpin' slippin'?

And one could make the case your comments lack credibility as well unless you have some inside source.
 
As much as you despise government spy agencies they are a necessary evil and we are all spying on each other including allies. It would be foolish not to if our adversaries are doing it. And believe it or not the information our intelligence operatives get is vital to the nation's security and has saved countless lives. One has only to look at WWII to see what breakthroughs were made by the allies against the Nazis that helped us win the war.

Bashing the west for spying is naive if you know the extent of subterfuge the Chinese and Russians are engaging in.

As a former member of the military with a security clearance I am aghast at what Snowden did. His intentions may have been noble but he played right into the hands of Russia and China and put agents of the west in grave danger.

Yes, and if you are old enough (I doubt you are) you were aghast, shocked I say, at what Daniel Ellsberg did too.

Does this mean you are proud and supportive of our institutionalized torture?
 
That's your opinion, I understand.

Now Greenwald has set the record straight--Snowden destroyed his own copies of the material he took from the government BEFORE he left Hong Kong. The only person with the copies were journalists, as Snowden intended from the start.

Thus, the weeping and gnashing of teeth by the Brits MI6 was all just a show, based upon a complete lie. And THAT is the Modus Operandi of our security state--make stuff up and tell stories the gullible will believe.
 
It is entirely logical that Russia and China would exploit the situation. It's what countries do. To think otherwise is naive. And the last time the identities of our spies were compromised some ended up dead. It's a very serious game.

The man may have had noble intentions but he played right into the hands of Russia and China.

On the other hand, we all are aware of the "Mighty Wurlitzer" to spin propaganda. Snowden said he downloaded all his files and sent them with Poitras, Greenwald or another person before he left Hong Kong. Please show me proof that any files made it to Russian or Chinese hands. Snowden has been getting good press ever since it became common knowledge that NSA has exceeded it snooping legalities at every opportunity and must be restrained, ergo the "Mighty Wurlitzer" adjusts perception with news articles attempting to defame Snowden. An article with no specific source, no documentation, insinuations unbacked by facts is "Perception Management" and you have been sucked in. This approaches the definition of smart feller or fart smeller. Perception management, don't ya' know?
 
On the other hand, we all are aware of the "Mighty Wurlitzer" to spin propaganda. Snowden said he downloaded all his files and sent them with Poitras, Greenwald or another person before he left Hong Kong. Please show me proof that any files made it to Russian or Chinese hands. Snowden has been getting good press ever since it became common knowledge that NSA has exceeded it snooping legalities at every opportunity and must be restrained, ergo the "Mighty Wurlitzer" adjusts perception with news articles attempting to defame Snowden. An article with no specific source, no documentation, insinuations unbacked by facts is "Perception Management" and you have been sucked in. This approaches the definition of smart feller or fart smeller. Perception management, don't ya' know?

That's the problem. If the British intelligence agency doesn't have enough backbone or respect for their citizens to put a name to these explosive allegations, I see no reason to take them seriously, and so disregard them as nothing more than unproved speculation. There is no reason for anonymity here, except for the person making the allegations doesn't want to be held accountable for spreading propaganda with no basis in the facts.

And I'm about over any press organization that allows this kind of stuff to happen. A press doing its job says to the intelligence officials - "No name, no facts to back up these allegations, no story." Pretty simple. Instead they take dictation from government officials and dutifully publish it. They're stenographers, not reporters, and don't deserve anyone's trust or respect.

In this case the stenographer couldn't be bothered with even simple fact checking, and so made the easily proved false claim that Greenwald's partner/boyfriend was stopped after visiting Snowden in Moscow when they discovered classified documents. At that point, he had never visited Moscow or Snowden, and was on his way back from Germany. Google and 2 minutes is all you need to fact check that claim, which tells us all we need to know about the fact checking that went on with this story - none.
 
That's amazing. You've gotten it completely backwards. Tell me which party the current President, who has prosecuted more whistleblowers than all the previous presidents combined, belongs to. What is his ideology?

Meanwhile, telling the enemy who our foreign secret agents are is treason straight up. It is in no way a legitimate thing for a whistleblower to do, knowingly or not.

That's right it is treason, and extraordinary and explosive allegations like that require evidence and the story that made the claim provided not one shred of it.

At the very least, if someone in the intelligence agency wants to call Snowden a traitor, they damn sure ought to have the courage to put their name and title to the allegations. Making it behind a veil of anonymity is chicken shiate behavior.
 
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