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    Re: Russia and China broke into Snowden files to identify western spies, says MI6

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    And as I already replied.
    Just confirming your that your position is based on absurd and conspiratorial thoughts.
    Your position is based upon anonymous sources implying that files Snowden stated did not leave Hong Kong have been de-crypted by Russian and Chinese agencies. No proof. No specific source. Another government "Narrative" delivered to Mass Media stenographers and spun to suck in the naive. "Blood on his hands." A slander as the article also states no known injuries of their mythical victims. No documented sources. No official agency statement. Anonymity! Feel sumpin' slippin'?

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    Re: Russia and China broke into Snowden files to identify western spies, says MI6

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Correct, and I pointed out why. This president that promised enhanced whistleblower protections, has in fact harmed them and along with it, a bit of a stifling of folks coming forward with information on government excess. But then from heavy handed cops to heavy handed government to heavy handed military operations, the right consistently supports excessive government and diminishing power to the people.
    That's amazing. You've gotten it completely backwards. Tell me which party the current President, who has prosecuted more whistleblowers than all the previous presidents combined, belongs to. What is his ideology?

    Meanwhile, telling the enemy who our foreign secret agents are is treason straight up. It is in no way a legitimate thing for a whistleblower to do, knowingly or not.

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    Re: Russia and China broke into Snowden files to identify western spies, says MI6

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    That's amazing. You've gotten it completely backwards. Tell me which party the current President, who has prosecuted more whistleblowers than all the previous presidents combined, belongs to. What is his ideology?

    Meanwhile, telling the enemy who our foreign secret agents are is treason straight up. It is in no way a legitimate thing for a whistleblower to do, knowingly or not.
    I don't know what point you're trying to make with that question???? I'm no supporter of a lot of this presidents policies, and as to his party, I'd sooner see the independents in America, truly vote independent, and side line both the ass and the elephant for an administration, and teach those bitches a lesson. I did not say that he has prosecuted more whistle blowers then all other presidents combined, but more than any other president. That's despite the fact that he promised otherwise, which makes it worse, just as his promise to be the most transparent presidency and then actually being the least makes him worse in that regard than Bush, who wasn't very transparent at all, but wasn't pretentious about it either.

    To the second point, there's no evidence for that!
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    Re: Russia and China broke into Snowden files to identify western spies, says MI6

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    As well as the fact that government excess and constitutional violations are supported by the fringe right.
    I can't speak for the rest of my "Fringe Right" brethren, but i don't support what the NSA did by spying on Americans. But that still doesn't excuse Snowden from releasing boatloads of classified info. He could've told someone instead of stealing and leaking the info.

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    Re: Russia and China broke into Snowden files to identify western spies, says MI6

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    Maybe you are not paying attention, but you have said nothing relevant to the information provided.
    Since what I said seems to went over head your head I will say it in simpler terms.You are trusting the word of know liars who have not offered any actual evidence to support their claim of what they alleged Snowden did. Why on earth would you trust what these people say? You must be one of millions of gullible people who believed Obama when he said "if you like your doctor then you can keep your doctor" seeing how you are so willing to believe known liars.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Russia and China broke into Snowden files to identify western spies, says MI6

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    I can't speak for the rest of my "Fringe Right" brethren, but i don't support what the NSA did by spying on Americans. But that still doesn't excuse Snowden from releasing boatloads of classified info. He could've told someone instead of stealing and leaking the info.
    The only people claiming Snowden leaked classified info to the enemy are those who lied to the American people about spying on the American people and those who support what the NSA did. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: Russia and China broke into Snowden files to identify western spies, says MI6

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Russia and China broke into Snowden files to identify western spies, says MI6

    Downing Street believes that Russian and Chinese intelligence agencies have used documents from whistleblower Edward Snowden to identify British and US secret agents, according to a report in the Sunday Times.

    The newspaper says MI6, Britainís Secret Intelligence Service, has withdrawn agents from overseas operations because Russian security services had broken into encrypted files held by American computer analyst Snowden.

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    Russia and China broke into Snowden files to identify western spies, says MI6


    This person is not a hero.
    Government shouldn't have been doing ****ed up **** that required him to take this action.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Russia and China broke into Snowden files to identify western spies, says MI6

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    I can't speak for the rest of my "Fringe Right" brethren, but i don't support what the NSA did by spying on Americans. But that still doesn't excuse Snowden from releasing boatloads of classified info. He could've told someone instead of stealing and leaking the info.
    Well I am glad to hear you're opposed to the NSA's unconstitutional actions. Snowden surely was advised against that considering that Obama, despite his promises otherwise, has prosecuted more whistleblowers then his predecessors. Had he kept his word, Snowden could have remained in the country along with the material he possessed.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Russia and China broke into Snowden files to identify western spies, says MI6

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    This is a planted narrative to defame Snowden. It states that MI6 "believes" that the encrypted files have been broken. That is simply speculation. This is the "Pentagon Narrative" being Mass Media distributed to promote an agenda. Wake up. On the other hand, the "Narrative" has worked on you. Right inside your cerebellum, don't ya' know?
    It is entirely logical that Russia and China would exploit the situation. It's what countries do. To think otherwise is naive. And the last time the identities of our spies were compromised some ended up dead. It's a very serious game.

    The man may have had noble intentions but he played right into the hands of Russia and China.

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    Re: Russia and China broke into Snowden files to identify western spies, says MI6

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    If his actions were considered to be controversial so far I honestly can't see him being portrayed as a good guy after that.

    He should be locked in prison for the rest of his life.
    He might as well be. He can no longer come back to his home country and he is at mercy of the Russians. They can do whatever they want to him and there isn't a damn thing anyone can do to help. He's ****ed.

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