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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

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    A weak POTUS and his know-nothing party = failure. For our country's sake let's hope the Repubs can save the day.

    House Rejects Trade Bill as Democrats Spurn the White House
    So... you want this bill to be passed?
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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    EXCEPT I POSTED HER WORDS SHOWING THAT SHE IS CLEARLY SUPPORTIVE OF IT. Do you believe that she was praising the deal when it first got underway because she was against it or neutral on the matter? If you want her to comment on the existing specifics of the deal, that's silly as she stopped being head of the DOS nearly 2 years ago and would have no role/knowledge of separate sections. However, her support for the deal is unquestionable unless you have SOMETHING else to contradict it. If this is too much for you, I understand.

    1. Bernie Sanders accuses Hillary Clinton of 'cop-out' on tradePolitico‎ - 9 hours ago

      Asked whether he thought her silence is a “cop-out,” Sanders replied, that, “Yes. It is.”.
    2. First Draft | Bernie Sanders Demands Hillary Clinton Take Trade Stance 'Right Now'New York Times‎ - 1 day ago




    3. Clinton's cowardice on trade - The Washington Post

      Washington Post: Breaking News, World, US, DC News & Analysis...hillary...silence-on-trade...The Washington Post


      May 13, 2015 - But another key element is solidifying and advancing a free-trade regime that ... Which brings us to Hillary Clinton. ... on in the Senate, Clinton has been silent, or worse, has quietly indicated her concerns about the agreement.
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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So... you want this bill to be passed?
    Free trade enriches all participants. This particular bill also is an important piece of our national security strategy in Asia.
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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    My major concern is that companies can sue Govts for lost profits- goes to an independent arbitration board.We had the case up here when Canada banned MMT, a gasoline additive. Govt paid up, removed the ban. Australia is having the same problems with their trade deals.
    So environmental, is up for grabs, rules for banks, open season on lessening regs as many want, basically eviscerating good sense regs and laws. that do not hinder trade in any way what so ever.
    This is just not is regard to TPP but the trade deal with the EU as well.
    let them sue. maybe displaced workers should sue, too.

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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Lol. So there's nothing in between the caveman and acceptance of a trade deal negotiated by corporate execs and industry lobbyists?
    Did i say that? Nope. But you have nothing noteworthy to say. So you do a diddle.

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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I'm not opposed to all liberalization. I am however disappointed with the way in which Obama has gone about this. I may support his views on many issues, but this is one he clearly screwed up on simply so he could say he got a bipartisan victory.
    That Obama is a problem is true.

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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

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    1. Bernie Sanders accuses Hillary Clinton of 'cop-out' on tradePolitico‎ - 9 hours ago

      Asked whether he thought her silence is a “cop-out,” Sanders replied, that, “Yes. It is.”.
    2. First Draft | Bernie Sanders Demands Hillary Clinton Take Trade Stance 'Right Now'New York Times‎ - 1 day ago




    3. Clinton's cowardice on trade - The Washington Post

      Washington Post: Breaking News, World, US, DC News & Analysis...hillary...silence-on-trade...The Washington Post


      May 13, 2015 - But another key element is solidifying and advancing a free-trade regime that ... Which brings us to Hillary Clinton. ... on in the Senate, Clinton has been silent, or worse, has quietly indicated her concerns about the agreement.
    That's all great and dandy, however I've already posted the evidence that Hillary has supported this deal for a while. Crying that she's not saying whatever it is Bernie Sanders wants her to say doesn't change that.
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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Did i say that? Nope. But you have nothing noteworthy to say. So you do a diddle.
    What? You asserted that not accepting TPP was to be a caveman!!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Free trade enriches all participants. This particular bill also is an important piece of our national security strategy in Asia.
    Hmmm, interesting that many Republicans don't feel the same. I'm sure they've been bamboozled by them evil Democrats.
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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So... you want this bill to be passed?
    Part of TPP's strategy is containment of China. Never mind that that's too late and it can't be done. But yes, there are people, none of which know what's in this trade deal that support it unconditionally. Strange.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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