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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    anyone see where hillary stands on this?
    Did you notice where Pelosi finally stood ?
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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That's great, not everybody wants to address the same issues in every election. If you'd like to know Hillary's stances on the TPP, you're welcome to use Google to find it. - Why, I did a 0.02 second search on Google and found this!

    Hillary Clinton on Free Trade



    The internet is your door to the world. Use it.
    So, from that does she or does she not support the current trade agreement? Can you tell? I can't.
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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Did you notice where Pelosi finally stood ?
    she was sorry, but she voted against it

    good on her!
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    one of the things i like most about Bernie Sanders
    no wet finger in the air of public opinion required. he will tell you where he stands

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    disappointing the congress would object to providing assistance to Americans who lose their wage earning capability because of the outcome of the trade bilk

    having screwed the common working man, watch them make a gift of fast track to Obama and the chamber of commerce
    I like that about Sanders too and that is why I can respect him without reservation as a person in a way I doubt I will ever be able to respect Hillary. I am allied with Sanders on even fewer issues than I am with Hillary (at least as she most recently took a position) but my disagreement is with his positions and not with him personally.
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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    So, from that does she or does she not support the current trade agreement? Can you tell? I can't.
    Hillary Clinton on Free Trade

    Our goal for TPP is to create not just more growth, but better growth. We believe the TPP needs to include strong protections for workers, the environment, intellectual property, and innovation,"
    Are you in a bandwidth wasting mood or what? If the current goal of the TPP is to do the same thing as 3 years ago, why would her positions on it change?
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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Export supported jobs exist too you know, and will be bolstered by the deal, not to mention the immense foreign policy benefits. It's sad to see a bi-partisan effort only to submarine good policy.

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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Hillary Clinton on Free Trade



    Are you in a bandwidth wasting mood or what? If the current goal of the TPP is to do the same thing as 3 years ago, why would her positions on it change?
    The goal of three years ago and how the bill was presented to Congress SHOULD change a person's position if the two don't gel. I haven't studied it sufficiently to know what changes have occurred in those three years. Have you? And what Hillary said as a 'loyal' member of the administration, and her position now as a Presidential candidate trying to distance herself from that administration is also fair game to question.
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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The worker aid program drew heavy opposition from both parties, with 158 Republicans joining 144 Democrats in voting "no."
    GOPs and DEMs opposed TAA for opposite reasons.
    GOPs are against giving aid to workers who lose their jobs due to trade pacts.
    DEMs wanted more aid to displaced workers.

    Pelosi has been a huge factor in this House since she DID NOT whip against the Cromnibus last December--saving the asses of both Boehner and Obama .
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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    The goal of three years ago and how the bill was presented to Congress SHOULD change a person's position if the two don't gel.
    The international community responsible for this has remained consistent in its stated goals for the TPP. Hillary has only given mentions of support. Whether the TPP achieves its goals or not is another matter but Hillary's support for the TPP is unquestionable unless you have evidence to her saying something else on the matter. I couldn't find anything. What we do know now is that the claim that she's stayed mum on the issue is simply not true.
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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Export supported jobs exist too you know, and will be bolstered by the deal, not to mention the immense foreign policy benefits.
    It's sad to see a bi-partisan effort only to submarine good policy.
    Is this why the GOP killed the Export-Import Bank?
    Since it helps small businesses and is opposed the Koch brothers, Jeb Hensarling and Eric Cantor .
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