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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    I have no problem with assistance but the fact is that those jobs should be replaced by other things from the trade agreement.
    if it isn't then the trade agreement is a bad deal and this TPA is a really bad deal for us.

    I am glad the house stomped it in the ground.

    the thing is we shouldn't be losing jobs in trade agreements we should be gaining jobs.
    We gain and we lose. The assistance helps those who lose.
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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    We gain and we lose. The assistance helps those who lose.
    yea well we shouldn't be losing that much, and the gains that we get should cover those people that lose.

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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    yea well we shouldn't be losing that much, and the gains that we get should cover those people that lose.

    It's usually not the same people, the same area or the same industry.
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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    This is good news.Hopefully this trade deal never passes.It amazes that Many of these same politicians who voted for this trade deal do not want to help workers who will lose their jobs as a result of this trade deal.

    Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House | Reuters
    The House of Representatives on Friday delivered a blow to President Barack Obama's signature goal of strengthening ties with Asia but could try again as soon as Tuesday to reverse defeat of a measure central to a Pacific Rim trade pact.
    In a dramatic vote, Obama's own Democrats, as well as Republicans, rejected a program to give aid to workers who lose their jobs as a result of U.S. trade deals with other countries. The measure was soundly defeated in a 302-126 vote.
    That was quickly followed by the House's narrow approval of a separate measure to give Obama "fast-track" authority to negotiate the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal. But the legislation is stuck in the House because of the defeat Obama and House Speaker John Boehner suffered on the first vote.
    A House Republican aide told reporters Republican leaders hope to try again Tuesday to pass the worker aid portion of the bill. That would allow the entire trade promotion authority (TPA) legislation to be signed into law by Obama, but its chances were unclear.
    White House spokesman Josh Earnest dismissed the failed vote as a "procedural snafu" and was confident Democrats would come around to support the measure.
    Republican Pete Sessions said Democrats would have to do some "soul-searching this weekend" to figure out the future of the worker support program, known as trade adjustment assistance (TAA.)
    "We're going to pass TPA," said Sessions, the head of the powerful House rules committee. "The question is going to be whether TAA is going to be in it."
    The worker aid program drew heavy opposition from both parties, with 158 Republicans joining 144 Democrats in voting "no."
    Trading partners such as Japan have urged the U.S. Congress to pass fast-track to help wrap up a Pacific Rim trade deal covering 40 percent of the world's economy.
    A very surprising vote, and a give props to leadership who lead the charge against this and i give props to everyone who voted against. Send it back to the Senate, lets hear more debate, lets see some fight. Keep it up!
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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    A majority of Repubs voted against worker assistance, as expected.
    And a majority of Democrats voted against it because the democratic base simply isn't supporting this 2 for 1 bill. Unless you were expecting something else?
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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    I'm glad you mention Walmart. While NaFTA was getting signed don't forget Hillary Clinton was on the board of directors for Walmart.
    i keep asking what is it that hillary has actually accomplished to deserve to be elected leader of the free world and you are the first to be able to offer a reply

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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i keep asking what is it that hillary has actually accomplished to deserve to be elected leader of the free world and you are the first to be able to offer a reply

    thanks!
    Well I meant that as a barb against Hillary. Instead of protecting American manufacturing she was sitting on the board of one of the largest companies that contributed to the loss of American manufacturing jobs. She was on the board when Wal*Mart started treating their employees like dirt.

    Hillary supporters don't know anything about her except that she's a woman who was married to a pretty cool president. That's why the closest thing to an accomplishment you'll see is when it's connected with her bigger failures.
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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    This is good news.Hopefully this trade deal never passes.It amazes that Many of these same politicians who voted for this trade deal do not want to help workers who will lose their jobs as a result of this trade deal.

    Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House | Reuters
    The House of Representatives on Friday delivered a blow to President Barack Obama's signature goal of strengthening ties with Asia but could try again as soon as Tuesday to reverse defeat of a measure central to a Pacific Rim trade pact.
    In a dramatic vote, Obama's own Democrats, as well as Republicans, rejected a program to give aid to workers who lose their jobs as a result of U.S. trade deals with other countries. The measure was soundly defeated in a 302-126 vote.
    That was quickly followed by the House's narrow approval of a separate measure to give Obama "fast-track" authority to negotiate the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal. But the legislation is stuck in the House because of the defeat Obama and House Speaker John Boehner suffered on the first vote.
    A House Republican aide told reporters Republican leaders hope to try again Tuesday to pass the worker aid portion of the bill. That would allow the entire trade promotion authority (TPA) legislation to be signed into law by Obama, but its chances were unclear.
    White House spokesman Josh Earnest dismissed the failed vote as a "procedural snafu" and was confident Democrats would come around to support the measure.
    Republican Pete Sessions said Democrats would have to do some "soul-searching this weekend" to figure out the future of the worker support program, known as trade adjustment assistance (TAA.)
    "We're going to pass TPA," said Sessions, the head of the powerful House rules committee. "The question is going to be whether TAA is going to be in it."
    The worker aid program drew heavy opposition from both parties, with 158 Republicans joining 144 Democrats in voting "no."
    Trading partners such as Japan have urged the U.S. Congress to pass fast-track to help wrap up a Pacific Rim trade deal covering 40 percent of the world's economy.
    I would say that TPA is really important, while reeduction is not really something government should do.

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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    And a majority of Democrats voted against it because the democratic base simply isn't supporting this 2 for 1 bill. Unless you were expecting something else?
    New questions arise about House Democratic caucus’s loyalty to Obama

    David Nakamura and Paul Kane
    The rebuke from the president’s own party on a Pacific Rim accord left his trade agenda on life support.


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    Re: Obama quest for fast-track trade bill defeated for now in House

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Well I meant that as a barb against Hillary. Instead of protecting American manufacturing she was sitting on the board of one of the largest companies that contributed to the loss of American manufacturing jobs. She was on the board when Wal*Mart started treating their employees like dirt.

    Hillary supporters don't know anything about her except that she's a woman who was married to a pretty cool president. That's why the closest thing to an accomplishment you'll see is when it's connected with her bigger failures.
    This is why Sanders is the dude!
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