Thread: Net Neutrality Goes Into Effect

Originally Posted by jonny5

Yeah they did. Look at the name on the truck laying cables across the country. The name on the building where all the servers, routers, and switches are. Cable companies spend hundreds of billions a year building and maintaining the internet.

That's like saying "McDonalds in on hamburger wrappers, therefore McDonalds makes cows."

Originally Posted by Deuce

You know taxpayers funded quite a bit of that, right?

He doesn't know that. Conservatives don't understand the concept of rent seeking.

Originally Posted by jonny5

Comcast has at least 6 competitors in my market.

Yes, we know. DSL, DSL, DSL, DSL, DSL, satellite.

FYI, DSL line bandwidth is determined by the distance between your home and the DSLAM--so it doesn't matter who your ISP is--they'll all equally suck.

Originally Posted by jonny5

They deliver the fastest internet at a reasonable price.

Here's how terrible U.S. broadband service really is

Why is American internet so slow?

Originally Posted by jonny5

And once the govt becomes a competitor, they will operate on 100% subsidies.

Govts. are already providing billion$ in subsidies to Comcast--giving it a market advantage over its local competitors it wouldn't otherwise have, at the expense of taxpayers--and further shielding them from local competition. . .

Big ISPs dwell in tax-break heaven, according to corporate tax study | Ars Technica

How big telecom smothers city-run broadband | Center for Public Integrity

Comcast is donating to campaign against Seattle mayor who brought gigabit internet to the city | The Verge

Like a good american, Im highly suspicious of giving govt power.

Cable Companies are the telecom companies. Its all the same thing. Furthermore, as you say, the backbone was a partnership, with private money, corporations providing the majority of the funds, technology and labor. The NSF did the paperwork. And this was all back in the early 90s. The current backbone which we use was built and run by telecoms/cablecoms.

Originally Posted by Deuce

You know taxpayers funded quite a bit of that, right?

Also, you are sadly mistaken about the nature of the internet. Cable companies are just the visible, "last mile" delivery system. There's a whole different backbone that they didn't build.

Quite a little bit. Far outshadowed by what the companies have spent.

Originally Posted by solletica

Yes, we know. DSL, DSL, DSL, DSL, DSL, satellite.

FYI, DSL line bandwidth is determined by the distance between your home and the DSLAM--so it doesn't matter who your ISP is--they'll all equally suck.





Here's how terrible U.S. broadband service really is

Why is American internet so slow?



Govts. are already providing billion$ in subsidies to Comcast--giving it a market advantage over its local competitors it wouldn't otherwise have, at the expense of taxpayers--and further shielding them from local competition. . .

Big ISPs dwell in tax-break heaven, according to corporate tax study | Ars Technica

How big telecom smothers city-run broadband | Center for Public Integrity

Comcast is donating to campaign against Seattle mayor who brought gigabit internet to the city | The Verge

Comcast PAYS billions in taxes. They are subsidizing the govt.

Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und

so now that ISP's can't charge heavy bandwith services a fee, who is going to pay for infrastructure upgrades to maintain a workable internet? as **** like streaming becomes more ubiquitous, bandwith needs will skyrocket. this of course will require infrastructure,


Now you and I will pay it. HOOORAY!

They can still charge. They just cant charge some people more for specialized usage. Like version tried to do with netflix I think it was. They developed a special onramp with faster access for their users. And the govt struck it down.