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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Ok. However that does not change the fact that they should have approached differently seeing that it was a 12 year old and there was a complete lack of communication between the kid and the officer. What ever happened to pointing your gun at the suspect and telling them to put down the weapon?
    Right.

    While the kid's age is pretty much immaterial the cops (especially since there were two of them) had ample opportunity to approach in a way that could have contained the situation rather than exacerbate it.

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    I wouldn't let my kid roam around a public park with it. that is the real question. of course the kids parents probably aren't home.
    stupid on his part unfortunately it was a very costly mistake.

    the judge doesn't matter it is the GJ that will still decide.
    Well, the judges statement matters in that it can be influential. But he can't make the DA bring charges, I agree.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    a guy walking toward you lifting up his shirt and reaching for a gun is an imminent threat.

    they didn't put themselves there they were responding to a call that someone reported that someone in a park had a gun.
    They DID unnecessarily put themselves in a dangerous situation. At the point of their arrival there was no imminent threat of great bodily harm to themselves or anyone else.

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    They DID unnecessarily put themselves in a dangerous situation. At the point of their arrival there was no imminent threat of great bodily harm to themselves or anyone else.
    No, that came when the perp reached for his weapon.

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well, the judges statement matters in that it can be influential. But he can't make the DA bring charges, I agree.
    No, it really matters not.
    But do tell how you think it is influential? Especially as we can see that he is wrong about what the video shows.

    All he is doing is showing he is a biased individual.
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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    They DID unnecessarily put themselves in a dangerous situation. At the point of their arrival there was no imminent threat of great bodily harm to themselves or anyone else.
    100% wrong, but you are letting your bias over rule reason and logic.

    them responding to a situation with a guy with a gun is putting themselves into a dangerous situation and there was an imminent threat for when they pulled up he got up walked toward them lifted his shirt and reached for a gun.

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    100% wrong, but you are letting your bias over rule reason and logic.

    them responding to a situation with a guy with a gun is putting themselves into a dangerous situation and there was an imminent threat for when they pulled up he got up walked toward them lifted his shirt and reached for a gun.
    My bias for what? The law?

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    My bias for what? The law?
    it isn't the law you are making it up in an attempt to justify your bias against the police.

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    No, it really matters not.
    But do tell how you think it is influential? Especially as we can see that he is wrong about what the video shows.

    All he is doing is showing he is a biased individual.
    From the link in the op.

    “We are very much relieved and it is a step towards procedural justice and people having access to their government,” Madison told the Guardian.

    The judge’s finding followed community leaders taking advantage of a little-known law to appeal directly to the judge to commence a prosecution of the officer, as is permitted in Ohio and a few other states.

    “State law does provide an avenue for a private citizen having knowledge of facts to initiate the criminal process,” Adrine wrote in his order.

    Madison said the judge’s finding showed “the police are public servants and not the public’s master”.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    it isn't the law you are making it up in an attempt to justify your bias against the police.
    Lol. That's funny, you cannot accuse Lutherf of an anti-police bias!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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