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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Crue! Ya let me down big time. I at least figured I'd get some attempt at an answer.
    You dont want answers. You want a choir calling for all cops heads.

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Suppose, as some here have suggested, the cops would have called to the youth from a distance with their loud speaker telling him to drop the gun or, whatever ultimatum they wanted to affix to it, and he had dropped it on the ground and stepped back away from it an acceptable distance? This child would still be with us, and would have learned one hell of a lesson. Speak to that CC.
    Should the cops in Aurora just stood out in the parking lot of the theater and called for the shooter?

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Should the cops in Aurora just stood out in the parking lot of the theater and called for the shooter?
    LMAO. The shooter in Aurora killed 12, injured 70, in a mass killing. Tamir Rice shot no one with his BB gun. You've got to be kidding comparing those two events.

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    You dont want answers. You want a choir calling for all cops heads.
    That wasn't a very good answer either. Why do you have trouble making a distinction between bad cops that should be weeded out and the rest of the cops that actually follow the rules, live up to their oath and are an asset in the profession and to the communities that they work in, hmm??
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Should the cops in Aurora just stood out in the parking lot of the theater and called for the shooter?
    See, perhaps you're one of those that needs to be weeded out. You're actually going to draw a comparison of response between an active shooter in a dark theatre, with people on the ground, and a kid who has an air soft in his waste band, even if you think it is a 1911??
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Tamir Rice:Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing 12 year-old[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Which is irrelevant to his response being legal or not.


    Of course it isn't.


    Yeah, it pretty much does.
    It shows the Officer responding to the threat that Tamir presented by reaching/grabbing the gun.
    It really doesn't show that very clearly though. Even enhanced it doesn't really show much.
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    Re: Tamir Rice:Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing 12 year-old[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    It really doesn't show that very clearly though. Even enhanced it doesn't really show much.
    It shows him reaching. Enhanced the gun can be made out. So again, back to the non-vacuum.
    Does that image provide a visual of what the Officer supposedly said of him going for the gun? Why yes it does.
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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    LMAO. The shooter in Aurora killed 12, injured 70, in a mass killing. Tamir Rice shot no one with his BB gun. You've got to be kidding comparing those two events.
    It is an appropriate comment. Let me ask you: would you have been upset if this were an Active shooter and the police didn't respond immediately? Let me take you back to columbine.

    Police were THERE. But their policy was not to go in. That is a BAD policy. For the obvious reason that police need to stop the incident immediately. Putting resistance up is key to stopping a shooter.

    Taking it back to the BB gun. I don't know what the police heard on the radio. I don't know if they heard "active shooter" or if they heard "kid with gun shooting" or if it was just "kid with gun." It can be chaotic. Even if they have the laptop screen telling them the call and updating them on the situation. They only know what the dispatch can convey.

    So. Police SHOULD have responded immediately to the call with a person with a gun. Especially if they were pointing it. That thing looked real. That BB gun might as well have been an exact replica of a 1911 or whatever. Rolling right up? That was stupid.
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    Re: Tamir Rice:Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing 12 year-old[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    It shows him reaching. Enhanced the gun can be made out. So again, back to the non-vacuum.
    Does that image provide a visual of what the Officer supposedly said of him going for the gun? Why yes it does.
    Reaching or lifting his shirt? Or throwing it away?
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    Re: Tamir Rice:Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing 12 year-old[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Reaching or lifting his shirt? Or throwing it away?
    Did the Officer say he was just lifting his shirt? Did he say he was throwing it away?
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