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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    Still not supporting what you said. Figures
    And this has to be one of the lamest replies I have ever seen.
    This isn't about me, or do you not know that?


    Argumentum ad populum More logical fallacy.
    It has as much meaning as if I had said the following: There's plenty of people here, and on other forums, and on the radio and TV who have seen the video, and agree with what I havew said and not with you or the Judge.

    Again just showing that you have no valid argument and can not refute the arguments made.



    Just more nonsense form you. It really is all you have.
    The majority of people viewing the footage take issue with the cops for one very good reason that I know isn't lost on you. You just will defend a cop no matter what he does. Others have pointed that out as well.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Who wants to be in a profession where every move you make is dissected by every member of the media, race baiters, "concerned" citizen", your own mayor and boss.
    Looking to roll you under a bus to "keep the peace" with said race pimps and left media. Neither of whom have ever risked a damn thing in their lives.
    You have no idea who has ever risked what. And nobody's interested in watching "every move you make". We're only interested when those moves violate department code of ethics, or worse are illegal.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The majority of people viewing the footage take issue with the cops for one very good reason that I know isn't lost on you. You just will defend a cop no matter what he does. Others have pointed that out as well.
    The amount of time it took to shoot the kid. Problem is...the video is very clear to make a call on that.
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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    Had the kid not been trying to intimidate people with a fake gun. had he not been in a public place pointing it around the child would still be with us.
    speak to that monecresto.
    I already spoke to that, it was my first post in the thread I believe.
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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Here is a recent local article. The 224 page investigation is included.

    Investigation reveals FBI agent's dramatic attempt to save Tamir Rice's life | cleveland.com

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    Re: Tamir Rice:Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing 12 year-old[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Distance and lack of sound. Biggest factors in why this video is not good enough to make a solid opinion. And since I can't enhance anything...I am going off what I can actually see.

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Doesn't really give me a picture. And the other evidence is important. I feel like I read about this crying at the firing line? Sounds to me like the department didn't do a good eval before hiring.
    A picture? As in an in-general overall picture?
    It pretty much does.
    Again. It is not being reviewed in a vacuum.
    Again. It can be used to ascertain certain things.

    As already pointed out it can be used to form a solid opinion of certain things, such as whether or not he had the gun and whether or not he was pointing the gun in his possession. Just as we can ascertain that the Officer was responding to Tamir's action in regards to the gun.
    Anyone ignoring that it can be used to form solid opinions in regards to some specifics is engaged in purposeful obtuseness.

    And I am not saying that you should form an opinion, I am saying it is apparent that solid opinions can be formed in regards to specifics and that one should not ignore that.


    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    The amount of time it took to shoot the kid. Problem is...the video is very clear to make a call on that.
    The video is clear that the Officer was responding to the threat that Tamir presented.

    As it was a "response", the amount of time and distance is irrelevant to whether or not his response was criminal.





    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The majority of people viewing the footage take issue with the cops for one very good reason that I know isn't lost on you. You just will defend a cop no matter what he does. Others have pointed that out as well.
    More lame claims, baiting and logical fallacy. Figures.

    The majority? Prove your logical fallacy.



    Me? Again showing you have no idea what you are talking about. It truly is a shame.
    Try refuting the arguments made. Never mind, I already know you can't.
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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by Nursmate View Post
    Here is a recent local article. The 224 page investigation is included.

    Investigation reveals FBI agent's dramatic attempt to save Tamir Rice's life | cleveland.com
    Wow! I read that. Dumb ass cops, but a valiant FBI agent.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Tamir Rice:Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing 12 year-old[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post


    A picture? As in an in-general overall picture?
    It pretty much does.
    Again. It is not being reviewed in a vacuum.
    Again. It can be used to ascertain certain things.

    As already pointed out it can be used to form a solid opinion of certain things, such as whether or not he had the gun and whether or not he was pointing the gun in his possession. Just as we can ascertain that the Officer was responding to Tamir's action in regards to the gun.
    Anyone ignoring that it can be used to form solid opinions in regards to some specifics is engaged in purposeful obtuseness.

    And I am not saying that you should form an opinion, I am saying it is apparent that solid opinions can be formed in regards to specifics and that one should not ignore that.


    The video is clear that the Officer was responding to the threat that Tamir presented.

    As it was a "response", the amount of time and distance is irrelevant to whether or not his response was criminal.





    More lame claims, baiting and logical fallacy. Figures.

    The majority? Prove your logical fallacy.



    Me? Again showing you have no idea what you are talking about. It truly is a shame.
    Try refuting the arguments made. Never mind, I already know you can't.
    Literally the only 3 things I know are that he had the pellet gun. He was killed. And it took only a second or 2 for the incident to transpire.

    The officers drove up really close. Yes. That too. But I don't know why.

    Sure. It isn't being reviewed in a vacuum and it shouldn't be. But this video isn't evidence of criminal action. Nor does it exonerate the officer.
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    Re: Tamir Rice:Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing 12 year-old[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    The officers drove up really close. Yes. That too. But I don't know why.
    Which is irrelevant to his response being legal or not.


    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    But this video isn't evidence of criminal action.
    Of course it isn't.


    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Nor does it exonerate the officer.
    Yeah, it pretty much does.
    It shows the Officer responding to the threat that Tamir presented by reaching/grabbing the gun.
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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You have no idea who has ever risked what. And nobody's interested in watching "every move you make". We're only interested when those moves violate department code of ethics, or worse are illegal.
    I have not idea. LOLOLOL Sure buddy. And yes, every move and word will be parsed and analyzed.

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