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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    We actually have established that in the other cop thread. The pool party one. He does not believe cops should be held accountable regardless of what they do. He believes cops can do what they wish simply because they are cops. Laws do not apply to them.
    I do that cop was out of control and should lose his job. there was no need for him to act like that.
    however these two cases are completely different.

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Who wants to be in a profession where every move you make is dissected by every member of the media, race baiters, "concerned" citizen", your own mayor and boss.
    Not every move, just (in this case) shooting kids armed with BB guns, then standing around for 4 minutes without administering first aid.

    Looking to roll you under a bus to "keep the peace" with said race pimps and left media. Neither of whom have ever risked a damn thing in their lives.
    We give police officers the authority to violate our liberties, arrest us, imprison us, and to use deadly force. It seems appropriate and necessary for the public to hold them accountable, especially when they use force (deadly or otherwise) against citizens and residents. If they object to being held accountable by the public and their elected representatives, I'd advise them to not let the door hit them on the ass on the way out. Good riddance.

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Then don't make toys look like real guns.
    OKie dokie. And hey...maybe stop blaming everyone else for your problems. The toy manufacturer made the toy with an orange tip. The asshole kid broke off the tip and used it with the intention to frighten and intimidate others. His grandmother admitted that. She let him. But by all means...blame the cops and the toy maker.

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    One is a Pellet Gun, the other a .44 Magnum. Your a cop, visibility is poor. Can you choose which is which in less than 2 sec?
    If the kid had the gun out when the police officer shot him, that might be a relevant question.

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It is a lie because it's not a legal requirement to have a damn orange tip on an air soft gun. If it's not a legal requirement to have it, how the hell can it be illegal to remove it? You're saying he broke a law that doesn't exist? Get serious ludin and stop insulting the intelligence of this forum's members.
    sigh go back and read what I posted before understand what you are talking about before shooting posts off on what you don't know.
    until you do you are ranting about absolutely nothing. you are the only one here insulting your own intelligence by not knowing what you are talking about.

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    That's true. What you're failing to acknowledge is that the cops are the ones who created the exigent circumstances. There was ample opportunity to handle the incident in a less aggressive manner and the cops chose not to.

    Look, for the sake of argument, if the cops had pulled up 50' away from him and ordered him to put his hands up and then the kid reached for the gun I'd be on their side. If the kid had the gun out and was pointing it at someone else in the area when they pulled up I'd be OK with the tactic that they used but neither of those scenarios is what actually happened.
    The cops did their job. They responded to a call by a citizen about a kid that is on video as being SHOWN to be threatening others with a gun.

    The cops pulled up. The kid jumped up, raised his shirt, and reached for what he fully intended to present to the world as a weapon.

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    OKie dokie. And hey...maybe stop blaming everyone else for your problems. The toy manufacturer made the toy with an orange tip. The asshole kid broke off the tip and used it with the intention to frighten and intimidate others. His grandmother admitted that. She let him. But by all means...blame the cops and the toy maker.
    as I posted before bb guns and airsoft guns do not require the orange tip for some reason. i am not sure why that is.
    the only thing that needs an orange tip are actual toy guns.

    however other kids have been shot or almost shot doing that exact same thing off the guns that have them.

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    sigh go back and read what I posted before understand what you are talking about before shooting posts off on what you don't know.
    until you do you are ranting about absolutely nothing. you are the only one here insulting your own intelligence by not knowing what you are talking about.
    It's almost like you don't have anything to argue so you're trying to simply claim that you haven't been caught lying again. Tell us, what kind of "gun" did Tamir Rice have in his possession? Are those "guns" required by federal law to have an orange tip? No. Are they required by state law? No. So how the hell is it illegal to remove the damn tip from one even if it came with it? Stop insulting us, man.
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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    OKie dokie. And hey...maybe stop blaming everyone else for your problems. The toy manufacturer made the toy with an orange tip. The asshole kid broke off the tip and used it with the intention to frighten and intimidate others. His grandmother admitted that. She let him. But by all means...blame the cops and the toy maker.
    Um, have you not read my other posts on the subject. I don't blame the cops at all in this case.
    The kid made the gun look real.

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    If the kid had the gun out when the police officer shot him, that might be a relevant question.
    Looked to me like he reached into his waistband as they pulled up. He sure as hell didn't raise his hands and keep them away from his body.

    A lot of the "controversy" seems aimed at whether the cops were supposed to know it was a "toy" gun and not a "real" gun. The article says a pellet gun, which is a real gun. The call was about someone waving a gun around, maybe a toy gun. Unless the person who called actually saw/heard it fire, then he, nor the police, could not have told the difference (as I demonstrated) and thus, the police had to treat it as if the kid was armed with a deadly weapon.
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