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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Police across the nation need to just walk off the job. Period. Drop their issue weapons and badges on their chiefs desks and turn around and walk away.
    Right because citizens should accept that the police state has the right to kill us and if we protest their use of deadly force they should walk off the job. Freedom and liberty!

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The second he jumped up, raised his shirt, and reached for the weapon, he gave the cops every reason to shoot him.
    Why? A common surrendering tactic is to raise your shirt up so people can see you dont have a weapon. A person is not a threat unless they have their hands on the weapon. When you have your gun trained on them in advance then 0.1 seconds of advantage is all you need.
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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Lets say you are in the courtroom...room full of interested parties...jury, family, media...packed house. The attorney mutters something like "**** this" and reaches into his briefcase, pulls out this....

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    And shouts die mother****ers! and points the gun at people in the courtroom. What happens? Be honest.
    The attorney should be ventilated immediately. That scenario, however, is vastly different than what the cops were presented with.

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    As a minimum, this statute was violated -



    If it's determined that the cops acted recklessly then they're toast.
    You are reaching for something that does not apply.
    That does not supersede the Officer's legal ability to respond to the threat that Tamir's going for the gun was.
    At no point was responding with lethal force to that lethal threat reckless.
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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    The attorney should be ventilated immediately. That scenario, however, is vastly different than what the cops were presented with.
    No...its not and you just advocated that a man be killed in cold blood for playing with a toy.

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Why? A common surrendering tactic is to raise your shirt up so people can see you dont have a weapon. A person is not a threat unless they have their hands on the weapon. When you have your gun trained on them in advance then 0.1 seconds of advantage is all you need.
    Reaching for your gun is a lethal threat.
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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    I wonder why cops are so gun-ho now days....

    When their recruitment ads look like they are trying to recruit people who are too scared to join the military but still get to shoot stuff.



    Join your local police army today! And maybe someone will give you an excuse to legally shoot them.

    Lol they even have a little warhawk on their badge! lololol
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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I would have shot him too. You tell me you can tell the difference between the gun the kid was holding a real one fast enough not to get yourself killed?
    I call BS if you think you can.
    He wasn't holding any gun. There was no chance for the police to see if it was real because he never actually pulled the gun out. He was shot.

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I would (obviously) disagree.

    When the cops came on scene the kid did not have the weapon exposed and nobody else appeared to be in the immediate vicinity. At that point the cops responsibility was to determine whether or not the kid was the suspect they had been called about. They had the opportunity to exercise a more cautious approach to the situation and chose not to. That, by definition, is "reckless".
    The rec center has been, and still is, a frequent location of violent assaults, many with guns. Thinking that the entirely of what transpired is on the video that started with the car on scene and ended with the shot is preposterous.

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    Re: Tamir Rice: Judge finds cause for Murder charge over police killing of 12 year-o

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Why? A common surrendering tactic is to raise your shirt up so people can see you dont have a weapon. A person is not a threat unless they have their hands on the weapon. When you have your gun trained on them in advance then 0.1 seconds of advantage is all you need.


    You think a common technique to surrender is to jump up, raise your shirt and reach for what you have been presenting as a real gun for the last half hour?

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