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    Re: Bernie Sanders lays out REAL family values platform

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Sure, sure. These are the laws enforced by the police with the special mind-reading powers? I couldn't speak to Canada, but In Britain:

    A third of managers would rather employ a man in his 20s or 30s over a woman of the same age for fear of maternity leave, according to a new study. A survey of 500 managers by law firm Slater & Gordon showed that more than 40% admitted they are generally wary of hiring a woman of childbearing age, while a similar number would be wary of hiring a woman who has already had a child or hiring a mother for a senior role.

    A quarter said they would rather hire a man to get around issues of maternity leave and child care when a woman does return to work, with 44% saying the financial costs to their business because of maternity leave are a significant concern....

    Mandated Maternity Leave Reduces The Likelihood That Women Will Get Promoted And Increases Gender Wage Gaps.


    Nor is it just conservatives saying this sort of thing


    Again, it is, absolutely, good for families. It just also stacks the deck against women in the workplace.
    I can tell you that I have never personally felt slighted when looking for a job, nor do I know of anyone who was not hired because they were of child-bearing age. Not saying it's never happened, but personally -- nor through the news cycle -- have I ever heard of a case (or do not recall) in Canada where a woman was not hired for a job because she could potentially have a child. Heck my workplace just hired a woman who was pregnant, because she was the best candidate (like it should be!). As I said before, we have strong laws against such things, and a business is taking a great risk if they choose to practice such misogyny.

    On another note, I failed to mention that here in Canada, there is a guaranteed year of mat leave. However, if the father chooses to take some time off, he can. For instance, the woman could take 8 months and the man 4.
    Putin has certainly grabbed Trump by the pussy. Payback is a bitch.

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    Re: Bernie Sanders lays out REAL family values platform

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    I admire Sanders conviction and believe that he feels what he is proposing would help American families but I have to disagree somewhat. Sometimes you have to look beyond intent and look at the bigger picture. I feel that such legislation (among some of his other proposals) will only spur more US businesses to outsource or move overseas into countries that do not place such a financial burden and inconsistent worker onto the business. It also makes investing in employee replacing technologies more appealing.

    While I do not believe Sanders bill will push us over the edge I do believe it will further erode our competitive business environment when frankly we need to spur more incentive to run a business here and not drive more away. Parental leave, sick leave, and vacation time are great but those are not going to do a lot of good if the jobs are not there to be had.
    But all other countries do such things. Heck, look a Germany. Think they are hurting when it comes to business???? Yet the are one of the biggest socialist nations.
    Putin has certainly grabbed Trump by the pussy. Payback is a bitch.

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    Re: Bernie Sanders wants to take back “family values” from the GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post

    And that my friends is how it's done. Don't ever concede BS talking points put forth by your opponents... own it yourself.
    If Sanders wants to win conservative voters, he should just talk about legalized gun ownership, because the only reason 99% of conservatives vote against Dems is because they're afraid that Dems will take away all their guns.

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    Re: Bernie Sanders lays out REAL family values platform

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And the majority of Americans agree with Sanders quite populist message.
    I would find that any normal, rational-thinking person would think that Bernie is just what Americans need right now.
    Putin has certainly grabbed Trump by the pussy. Payback is a bitch.

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    Re: Bernie Sanders lays out REAL family values platform

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Beg to differ all you want, but he knows something you apparently haven't thought about. After running in the primaries and losing as a Democrat, he wouldn't be registered in enough, if any at all, states to win the generall election as an independent. Ross Perot ran as an independent from the beginning to the end.
    It's his messy hair. Makes him looks craaaaaaaaazy, I tell ya!
    Putin has certainly grabbed Trump by the pussy. Payback is a bitch.

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    Re: Bernie Sanders lays out REAL family values platform

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    I'm a big fan of gridlock. With our propensity to gravitate toward the Unitary President however, as we've seen recently, the office of president has become too powerful.
    A congress with both houses of the opposing party can fix that if they want to.

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    Re: Bernie Sanders lays out REAL family values platform

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    Does that help business grow the economy?
    In the very least, it makes for a happier people.
    Putin has certainly grabbed Trump by the pussy. Payback is a bitch.

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    Re: Bernie Sanders lays out REAL family values platform

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    It's his messy hair. Makes him looks craaaaaaaaazy, I tell ya!
    We're due for another bald president.

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    Re: Bernie Sanders lays out REAL family values platform

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I would find that any normal, rational-thinking person would think that Bernie is just what Americans need right now.
    and what are people who don't believe Bernie is what we need?...

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    Re: Bernie Sanders lays out REAL family values platform

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    A congress with both houses of the opposing party can fix that if they want to.
    How's that working out now? The strongest measure Congress has is impeachment and Obama and Congress both know he is immune from that because history will never record the impeachment of our first minority President. It's given Obama the ability to push constitutional limits and expand his power.

    I am not a fan of one party governance but in the upcoming election I think it would be good for one party to have a couple years to fix what democrats have managed to break under Obama.
    "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury." Attributed to Alexander Tytler

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