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    Re: Bernie Sanders wants to take back “family values” from the GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Care to flesh that out and explain what you are trying to say?
    How " 12 point plan to move America forward " is actually a 12 point plan to destroy whats left of our economy.

    Tax Increases, " stimulus to increase aggregate demand " and cost increases on Corporations.

    It would be a disaster and not just for us

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    Re: Bernie Sanders wants to take back “family values” from the GOP

    Whose family? Marx or Lennin?
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    Re: Bernie Sanders wants to take back “family values” from the GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    How " 12 point plan to move America forward " is actually a 12 point plan to destroy whats left of our economy.

    Tax Increases, " stimulus to increase aggregate demand " and cost increases on Corporations.

    It would be a disaster and not just for us
    Well that's not the kind of answer I was looking for, but I can see you are Brownback/Walker kind of guy.










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    Re: Bernie Sanders lays out REAL family values platform

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    So you and I would be one of the former.

    Now. If he' so independent instead of a liberal democrat with self-affirming delusions, what issues does he vote with the Republican Party on?
    I'm in the latter as I don't divide things into two groups. Voting does not determine party membership, I've already stated that.

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    Re: Bernie Sanders lays out REAL family values platform

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    "Socialistic libertarian"? You're kidding, right? Is that like dry water?

    Sanders is revered by The Communist Party USA. Nuff said.
    I don't know about the communists, I don't pay much attention to them. I think Bernie is very much libertarian in his views of topics like drug laws, so he wants government out of that issue, but then he is on the opposite end of the spectrum on many other issues for government intrusion. I'm sure he doesn't see how contradictory he is on the role of government. He is an ends justify the means politician.

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    Re: Bernie Sanders lays out REAL family values platform

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I'm in the latter as I don't divide things into two groups
    (Bernie Sanders wants to take back “family values” from the GOP)

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik
    There are two kinds of people in the world, those who divide things into two groups, and those who don't
    Voting does not determine party membership,
    Votes with Democrats
    Caucuses with Democrats
    Committee Memberships count against Democrats
    Running for nomination of Democrat Party for President.

    It's a Democrat.
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    Re: Bernie Sanders lays out REAL family values platform

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    He doesn't oppose the Democratic ideas. He doesn't fight them. He blindly votes with them almost 100% of the time. He runs in his own state as something other than a Democrat because that flies in Vermont. He is a Democrat.
    I don't think Bernie does anything blindly. I think he is very thoughtful in his ideas an opinions. I don't agree with most of them, but he is Independent. The fact that he gets perks by caucusing with the Democrats in Congress and he is more aligned with them on many issues--likely issues you disagree with, does not make him a Democrat. Your 100% figure is your own exaggeration--or do you have some proof?

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    Re: Bernie Sanders lays out REAL family values platform

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
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    Votes with Democrats
    Caucuses with Democrats
    Committee Memberships count against Democrats
    Running for nomination of Democrat Party for President.

    It's a Democrat.
    Clearly the humor of two groups was lost on you. Sorry.

    He votes often with Democrats.
    Not sure what caucus impact he has as they are private meetings. They could just as easily exclude him and not let him in.
    What does committee membership counting against Democrats mean?
    Even his supporters acknowledge that him running as a Democrat is a means to an end.

    Please alert me when he changes his party affiliation changes. We both know it isn't happening.

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    Re: Bernie Sanders lays out REAL family values platform

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I don't think Bernie does anything blindly. I think he is very thoughtful in his ideas an opinions. I don't agree with most of them, but he is Independent. The fact that he gets perks by caucusing with the Democrats in Congress and he is more aligned with them on many issues--likely issues you disagree with, does not make him a Democrat. Your 100% figure is your own exaggeration--or do you have some proof?
    No, my "almost 100%" figure (which by the way isn't the same thing as 100%) isn't my "own exaggeration". It was Howard Dean's, fellow Vermonter and at the time head of the DNC, who said it.

    The bottom line is that Bernie Sanders votes with the Democrats 98 percent of the time. And that is a candidate that we think...

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    Re: Bernie Sanders lays out REAL family values platform

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Clearly the humor of two groups was lost on you. Sorry.

    He votes often with Democrats.
    Not sure what caucus impact he has as they are private meetings. They could just as easily exclude him and not let him in.
    What does committee membership counting against Democrats mean?
    Even his supporters acknowledge that him running as a Democrat is a means to an end.

    Please alert me when he changes his party affiliation changes. We both know it isn't happening.
    "Often"?

    As of 2007, the latest official date I could find, he voted with them 94.10% of the time. That's "often"?

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