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    Re: Even Baby Boomers Think It's Harder to Get Started Professionally Than It Used to

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    You can blame the job market to a degree but ultimately it's that we're actively thwarting labor in this country. We can't demand rock bottom prices and free products and then complain when no one is hiring or paying good wages. We're in a vicious cycle.

    Being a conscious consumer and organizing is the solution.
    I don't think the government has much to do with it. It all boils down to the advent of container ships in the early 70s. They made it possible to ship massive amounts of goods all over the world exponentially cheaper than ever before. It's been a race to the bottom in terms of labor costs ever since.
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    Re: Even Baby Boomers Think It's Harder to Get Started Professionally Than It Used to

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironfist17 View Post
    Millennials Are Still Struggling to Find Jobs - The Atlantic
    Why is it happening this way? Our society seems to be much more prosperous than a few decades ago due to great technological advancement. There are so many ways to earn money by programming stuff or running your internet based business yet it seems like it's much harder to actualize yourself than a few generations ago. What's the reason behind that? How to solve this problem efficiently?
    Too much competition for one thing. Secondly, it's like trying to get a movie produced: you have to get "producers" to buy your idea.
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    Re: Even Baby Boomers Think It's Harder to Get Started Professionally Than It Used to

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    It's pretty simple. There are fewer jobs and more people to do them. And most of them won't even give someone an interview unless they're already established with several years of experience. Starting out right now is pretty much a coin flip.
    Yup. I bought an expensive suit for interviews a couple years ago. With the exception of one job selling insurance which I'm about 95% sure was a pyramid scheme, I've never actually worn it to a real job interview.

    None of the companies that would host an interview that would require a suit ever called me back.

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    Re: Even Baby Boomers Think It's Harder to Get Started Professionally Than It Used to

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    We as a nation are addicted to slave labor and whatever it is we can get that's closest to that. Which is why there will never be any honest policy put forth to address illegal immigration so long as they can, with a wink and a nod, work under the table here. Which has the added effect of driving the rest of our wages down.
    If by "addicted to slave labor" you mean American consumers are addicted to buying goods and services produced abroad by people whose living standards are much lower than ours, then you have a valid point. If you mean something else by that, you probably don't.

    Regulation and labor laws that push wages and benefits higher reinforce all the things you don't actually want for American labor. Promising the baby boomers they will be the last generation in history to benefit from pensions (because after that we'll be broke) is reinforcing generational inequality. Policies liberals support bring about the conditions about which they perpetually complain.
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    Re: Even Baby Boomers Think It's Harder to Get Started Professionally Than It Used to

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Being a conscious consumer and organizing is the solution.
    The solution is improving the economy.

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    Re: Even Baby Boomers Think It's Harder to Get Started Professionally Than It Used to

    Too much whining. Our three children all launched just fine. My wife and I arrived in northern VA in 1976 with $17 in the bank. Built from there. My impression is that the only things some millennials lack are patience and a tolerance for hard work.
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    Re: Even Baby Boomers Think It's Harder to Get Started Professionally Than It Used to

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    If by "addicted to slave labor" you mean American consumers are addicted to buying goods and services produced abroad by people whose living standards are much lower than ours, then you have a valid point. If you mean something else by that, you probably don't.

    Regulation and labor laws that push wages and benefits higher reinforce all the things you don't actually want for American labor. Promising the baby boomers they will be the last generation in history to benefit from pensions (because after that we'll be broke) is reinforcing generational inequality. Policies liberals support bring about the conditions about which they perpetually complain.
    We dont' need cheap, subservient labor to subsist as a nation. There is a balance. A balance at which we, as a nation can produce the goods and services we need without under the table immigrant labor or labor of nations that pay near nothing. There is a balance. We just refuse to find it.
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    Re: Even Baby Boomers Think It's Harder to Get Started Professionally Than It Used to

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    We dont' need cheap, subservient labor to subsist as a nation. There is a balance. A balance at which we, as a nation can produce the goods and services we need without under the table immigrant labor or labor of nations that pay near nothing. There is a balance. We just refuse to find it.
    That's what markets are for.
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    Re: Even Baby Boomers Think It's Harder to Get Started Professionally Than It Used to

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    That's what markets are for.
    I guess I've forgotten to show my gratitude to the markets for they did for us in 1929, 1962, 1989, 1990, 2001 and 2007. Yeah... **** the markets.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Even Baby Boomers Think It's Harder to Get Started Professionally Than It Used to

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I don't think the government has much to do with it. It all boils down to the advent of container ships in the early 70s. They made it possible to ship massive amounts of goods all over the world exponentially cheaper than ever before. It's been a race to the bottom in terms of labor costs ever since.
    I was more arguing on a social level, but there's certainly room for protectionism to combat imports that don't have to meet our environmental/minimum wage/worker safety/ethical testing/etc. and that's not even getting into the anti-union legislation passed in many red states.
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