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    GOP leaders confirm Friday trade vote

    The House will vote Friday on whether to give President Barack Obama fast-track authority to negotiate the Pacific Rim trade deal.House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) made the announcement in a closed Republican meeting in the Capitol Wednesday morning. Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) said GOP leadership would do everything it can to move the bill this week.
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    The move indicates GOP leadership is beginning to feel comfortable with the level of support for the measure.


    Read more: GOP leaders confirm Friday trade vote - Jake Sherman - POLITICO

    Well that really didnt take too long. Boehner must be indicated that they have the votes. Unfortunately there is little hope that this measure is going to be shot down. I hope they can keep a lively debate.
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    Re: GOP leaders confirm Friday trade vote

    Unfortunately, this seems to be all but done. All the right players had to have been paid off well to get this to a Friday vote, meaning I agree that Boehner and McConnell must have the vote issue remedied.
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    Re: GOP leaders confirm Friday trade vote

    Boehner has scheduled votes before thinking he had the votes for passage only to pull it once he realized the votes weren't there. So we will see.

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    Re: GOP leaders confirm Friday trade vote

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more: GOP leaders confirm Friday trade vote - Jake Sherman - POLITICO

    Well that really didnt take too long. Boehner must be indicated that they have the votes. Unfortunately there is little hope that this measure is going to be shot down. I hope they can keep a lively debate. [/FONT][/COLOR]
    Pretty amazing when Harry Reid doesn't gum up the works, isn't it?
    **** actually gets done.
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    Re: GOP leaders confirm Friday trade vote

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more: GOP leaders confirm Friday trade vote - Jake Sherman - POLITICO

    Well that really didnt take too long. Boehner must be indicated that they have the votes. Unfortunately there is little hope that this measure is going to be shot down. I hope they can keep a lively debate. [/FONT][/COLOR]
    It should be noted that the legislation in question is not a vote on the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) Agreement. The TPP has not been agreed. Negotiations are ongoing. Instead, the legislation concerns fast-track authority for Congressional and Senate review should the TPP be agreed. From the Politico.com story, this will be a "vote to grant President Barack Obama fast-track authority to negotiate a massive Pacific Rim trade deal..."

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    Re: GOP leaders confirm Friday trade vote

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    Pretty amazing when Harry Reid doesn't gum up the works, isn't it?
    **** actually gets done.
    You think giving the president fast track authority is a good thing? Why?
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    Re: GOP leaders confirm Friday trade vote

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Pretty amazing when Harry Reid doesn't gum up the works, isn't it?
    **** actually gets done.
    And you support this bill why?










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    Re: GOP leaders confirm Friday trade vote

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    You think giving the president fast track authority is a good thing? Why?
    Because it is good policy.

    TPA, which simply ensures that a trade pact negotiated by the president receives an up-or-down vote in Congress, ought to be utterly uncontroversial: Trade liberalization is generally good for the United States. TPA simply ensures that a proposed trade accord gets a vote rather than die a death by a thousand cuts or suffocation.

    Some Republicans have argued that any unnecessary delegation of powers to President Obama is to be avoided, because the president is a habitual abuser of his powers and generally untrustworthy. These concerns are not without merit, but TPA does not bind Congress to the president’s proposal — it only ensures that they are obliged to vote on it. There is at present no reason to believe that TPP is a bad deal, but if it comes in ugly, then Republicans, who control both houses of Congress, can easily stop it. A precedent of opposing TPA per se would be destructive — Republicans should bear in mind that Barack Obama will not be president forever. A President Rubio, President Walker (etc.) might make very good use of TPA, which ought to be maintained as an ordinary procedural mechanism...
    And while we're at it, it's also good politics (for conservatives)

    ...The politics are even better for Republicans, because TPA strengthens their hand in the matter of the Trans-Pacific Partnership. President Obama wants a Pacific trade deal, and Republicans want (or should want) a Pacific trade deal, too. Congressional Democrats are generally hostile to such liberalizing measures, meaning that President Obama knows that if he wants to cross TPP off his to-do list he must bring in a deal that Republicans will find acceptable — more than acceptable: worth fighting for. The best course for the GOP is to fight for TPA and to take affirmative steps to let the president know the TPP limitations within which he is working; Republicans should tell him, in effect: “This is our wish list, these are our must-haves, and these are our deal-breakers.”

    The president knows that he will have more success negotiating with Republicans than he will with Charles Schumer and Nancy Pelosi. Republicans ought to appreciate that they will have more success negotiating with President Obama than with Charles Schumer and Nancy Pelosi. For once, they have the undisputed upper hand, a position that some of them apparently find confusing....
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    Re: GOP leaders confirm Friday trade vote

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Because it is good policy.



    And while we're at it, it's also good politics (for conservatives)
    It is important to note that this authority GIVEN to the President by Congress. The President is granted this authority. Congress is essentially shooting itself in the foot by giving the President this authority, and to approve or deny the TPP with minimal debate and no amendments. Our elected representatives have no actual roll in the trade policy and formulating it other than voting it up or down.
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    Re: GOP leaders confirm Friday trade vote

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    It is important to note that this authority GIVEN to the President by Congress. The President is granted this authority. Congress is essentially shooting itself in the foot by giving the President this authority, and to approve or deny the TPP with minimal debate and no amendments. Our elected representatives have no actual roll in the trade policy and formulating it other than voting it up or down.
    They are giving the President the authority to submit a negotiated trade deal for an up or down vote which Congress is then free to vote down or vote up as it pleases.

    I'm pretty solidly on the side of "we have an imperial Presidency and that's a problem" when it comes to balance-of-powers, but this is still a good move.




    FFS, how often am I the one arguing that congress needs to not position itself to maximize obstruction of this Presidents' policy objectives? This is good policy.
    “In America we have a two-party system,” a Republican congressional staffer told a visiting group of Russian legislators. “There is the stupid party. And there is the evil party. I am proud to be a member of the stupid party. Periodically, the two parties get together and do something that is both stupid and evil. This is called: bipartisanship."

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