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    Re: TSA Fails to ID 73 Airport Employees With Links to Terrorism

    To be fair, blaming TSA in this case is well...not fair. From what it sounds like, they weren't privy to the information to properly vet the people. Sounded like generally the process is working okay (as it damn will better should, trying to get clearance is a massive PITA), and they'd have a good chance if not found the 73 of 900k if given access.

    Far biggesr issues of inefficiency and pointless policy within the TSA (that are actually the TSA's fault); blaming them for this is silly.

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    Re: TSA Fails to ID 73 Airport Employees With Links to Terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by coyotedelmar View Post
    To be fair, blaming TSA in this case is well...not fair. From what it sounds like, they weren't privy to the information to properly vet the people. Sounded like generally the process is working okay (as it damn will better should, trying to get clearance is a massive PITA), and they'd have a good chance if not found the 73 of 900k if given access.

    Far biggesr issues of inefficiency and pointless policy within the TSA (that are actually the TSA's fault); blaming them for this is silly.
    Don't feel sorry for TSA. Google it and look at the pages of documentation of failures, the numbers of investigations, undercover people sneaking all manner of things threw, the abuses of the elderly, the handicapped and the mentally challenged people. This agencies 14,year record is hideous, a colossal failure, has interrupted no terrorist threats, wasted 80 billion dollars, and been a huge pain in the ass to millions, maybe a billion travelers in its existence. Really, we should disband it.
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    Re: TSA Fails to ID 73 Airport Employees With Links to Terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Don't feel sorry for TSA. Google it and look at the pages of documentation of failures, the numbers of investigations, undercover people sneaking all manner of things threw, the abuses of the elderly, the handicapped and the mentally challenged people. This agencies 14,year record is hideous, a colossal failure, has interrupted no terrorist threats, wasted 80 billion dollars, and been a huge pain in the ass to millions, maybe a billion travelers in its existence. Really, we should disband it.
    Sneaking things through is a fault of TSA, in particular toward the top with the insistence of ineffective techniques and technology. One of the things I was talking about with the bigger issues to criticize them on (so agreed on that).

    Abuses of the elderly, handicapped, and mentally challenged would need some citation. The stories I've heard on any of those have generally happened because of how we set up our screen policy. Basically that we check everyone (well more randomly then "everyone," another example of weak/show policy). If they ignored the elderly and handicapped, possibly mentally challenged as well (that's a bit more iffy), then it'd create a security gap.


    That aside, I wasn't feeling sorry for the TSA, I have pretty major qualms with two big elements on their job. However blaming this on the TSA is fairly dishonest. Even reading the report it sounds more the fault of airports/airlines and TIDE information not being shared with the TSA

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    Re: TSA Fails to ID 73 Airport Employees With Links to Terrorism

    1st: Scrap the TSA
    2nd: Allow airports to hire their own security with government assistance in background checking and funding

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    Re: TSA Fails to ID 73 Airport Employees With Links to Terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by coyotedelmar View Post
    Sneaking things through is a fault of TSA, in particular toward the top with the insistence of ineffective techniques and technology. One of the things I was talking about with the bigger issues to criticize them on (so agreed on that).

    Abuses of the elderly, handicapped, and mentally challenged would need some citation. The stories I've heard on any of those have generally happened because of how we set up our screen policy. Basically that we check everyone (well more randomly then "everyone," another example of weak/show policy). If they ignored the elderly and handicapped, possibly mentally challenged as well (that's a bit more iffy), then it'd create a security gap.


    That aside, I wasn't feeling sorry for the TSA, I have pretty major qualms with two big elements on their job. However blaming this on the TSA is fairly dishonest. Even reading the report it sounds more the fault of airports/airlines and TIDE information not being shared with the TSA
    All that said, the TSA needs to be eliminated!
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    Re: TSA Fails to ID 73 Airport Employees With Links to Terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    1st: Scrap the TSA
    2nd: Allow airports to hire their own security with government assistance in background checking and funding
    If you want airports to hire security, I'm guessing you didn't read much of the report? The Airports/airlines sounded the most lax in their requirements (and background checking/information submitting).

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    Re: TSA Fails to ID 73 Airport Employees With Links to Terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    1st: Scrap the TSA
    2nd: Allow airports to hire their own security with government assistance in background checking and funding
    We used to do it that way. And then a thing happened.
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    Re: TSA Fails to ID 73 Airport Employees With Links to Terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    We used to do it that way. And then a thing happened.
    And then another thing happened 00 and then another thing.... though a lot of people seem to forget they were allowed on with items allowed by the FAA, who was (is?) in charge of making and changing that list. (not trying to accuse you of that forgetfulness, of course. )
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