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    Obama lawyers asked secret court to ignore public court's decision on spying

    This is ridiculous.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...-phone-records

    The Obama administration has asked a secret surveillance court to ignore a federal court that found bulk surveillance illegal and to once again grant the National Security Agency the power to collect the phone records of millions of Americans for six months. The legal request, filed nearly four hours after Barack Obama vowed to sign a new law banning precisely the bulk collection he asks the secret court to approve, also suggests that the administration may not necessarily comply with any potential court order demanding that the collection stop. US officials confirmed last week that they would ask the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance court – better known as the Fisa court, a panel that meets in secret as a step in the surveillance process and thus far has only ever had the government argue before it – to turn the domestic bulk collection spigot back on.
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    Re: Obama lawyers asked secret court to ignore public court's decision on spying

    the king is at it again.

    he should be held in contempt of court. the fisa court is not above a federal appeals court and has to abide by that ruling
    just as it would have to abide by a SCOTUS ruling.

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    Re: Obama lawyers asked secret court to ignore public court's decision on spying

    The most transparent administration ladies and gentlemen.

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    Re: Obama lawyers asked secret court to ignore public court's decision on spying

    And to think, a healthy chunk of the people who voted for Obama in 2008 did so because they thought he would end this kind of surveillance.
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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    Re: Obama lawyers asked secret court to ignore public court's decision on spying

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    the king is at it again.

    he should be held in contempt of court. the fisa court is not above a federal appeals court and has to abide by that ruling
    just as it would have to abide by a SCOTUS ruling.
    The reason why we have presidents committing these extra-constitutional acts is because brown nosed partisans won't hold their own accountable.

    WASHINGTON, Dec. 15 - Months after the Sept. 11 attacks, President Bush secretly authorized the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on Americans and others inside the United States to search for evidence of terrorist activity without the court-approved warrants ordinarily required for domestic spying, according to government officials.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/16/po...urts.html?_r=0
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama lawyers asked secret court to ignore public court's decision on spying

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    And to think, a healthy chunk of the people who voted for Obama in 2008 did so because they thought he would end this kind of surveillance.
    True enough, and there's a healthy chunk of that original base very pissed of at Obama for this and many other broken campaign promises.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama lawyers asked secret court to ignore public court's decision on spying

    like i have said in other threads, this administration has been really disappointing when it comes to domestic surveillance, just as previous administrations were. the difference is that this one promised to behave differently.

    my prediction is that no matter who is elected, the patriot act is permanent, and the surveillance will not just continue, but will also expand.

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    Re: Obama lawyers asked secret court to ignore public court's decision on spying

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    True enough, and there's a healthy chunk of that original base very pissed of at Obama for this and many other broken campaign promises.
    And they will vote for Hilary and be really pissed when she doesn't do anything about it either.
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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    Re: Obama lawyers asked secret court to ignore public court's decision on spying

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The reason why we have presidents committing these extra-constitutional acts is because brown nosed partisans won't hold their own accountable.
    Irrespective of the rationale, a President shouldn't be committing extra-constitutional acts.

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    Re: Obama lawyers asked secret court to ignore public court's decision on spying

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    And they will vote for Hilary and be really pissed when she doesn't do anything about it either.
    That's why they should vote for Bernie.

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