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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case, in blunt challenge | Fox News

    This guy thinks he is a King. Why would anyone take this guy serious on anything and can you imagine taking Constitutional Law from this radical incompetent?
    I don't know how he even passed constitutional law. there is a reason he won't release his college records.

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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

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    The more technical critique should have been directed towards the three judge panel for the DC Court of Appeals. At the same time that this decision was made in 2-1 verdict against the ACA, the 4th Circuit ruled 3-0 in favor of the ACA. If the conflict did not exist, then the Supreme Court would not have taken up the issue.

    The implications of a negative ruling in this case are tremendous and should not be understated. The insurance markets in those states which do not run their own health insurance market places (thirty six states) will have hundreds of thousands of individuals instantly drop out of the insurance market. The remaining policies will almost certainly become non-profitable for the insurance companies. The new pricing will reflect the fact that potentially millions of individuals will no longer be able to take part in the market place and this will increase the risk and thus, the price.

    What the finding will not do, despite the misunderstandings (and desires) of some conservatives, is destroy the Affordable Care Act. Subsidies for those individuals who are unable to afford the full cost of health insurance is one component (albeit important) of the ACA. The law, including the mandate that insurance companies not reject individuals based on pre-existing conditions will still exist. The tax penalty for those individuals who can afford health insurance, but choose not to purchase a qualifying plan, will still exist. The State and Federally run marketplaces will still exist.
    actually it will undo the whole thing unless something changes it and here is the reason.

    if no one is in the exchange or a few people then the cost of insurance on those people will skyrocket already.
    the whole part of making obamacare work is that millions and millions of people are in the exchange.

    if the amount of people aren't there then the thing will fall into a death spiral.
    the state exchanges are in shambles and running liability issues already.

    more people will fall under the tax penalty.

    this is what happens when you have to pass a law to know what is in it.
    the only reason they will be dropped is if they can't pay.

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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    By that same token, federal tax dollars shouldn't go to states to fund their state highway/road repair/construction projects.

    Exactly, and they don't, they fund the FEDERAL HIGHWAY SYSTEM that goes through the states. Keep digging to justify the 3.9 trillion dollar budget Obama wants. You people really are something else.

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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by JC Callender View Post
    Evening Pg *hug*

    I'm guessing to cover his own agenda so no one could blame him for not fighting. I wouldn't suspect political pressure as I'm sure the members of the SC are thick skinned and used to it.
    Greetings, JC.

    Well, that makes sense.

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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I think it could be argued that the real wealth redistribution has been the slow climb of inflation along with 30+ years of wealth inequality that has taken place in this country not to mention no tax relief for working-class Americans. But let's save that for another thread.
    Tax relief isn't a problem, but when you have 47% that don't pay any Federal Income taxes giving them a cut is a welfare payment

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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Republicans want to steal 700 million dollars from Medicare to pay for retraining all those people that are going to loose there jobs due to that sorry TPP treaty. Where's that in the constitution?
    What leftwing site did you get that jewel from? There isn't any money in Medicare that hasn't been committed, it is broke thanks to the Unified budget

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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    The case is important to someone, or the SCOTUS would not have been asked to rule on it. Obama stated they shouldn't even be hearing the case, and you don't find anything wrong with that?
    The only reason that the SCOTUS is hearing the case is that there is a conflict in federal appeals courts on the issue.
    the DC court which is the higher ranked on ruled against the administration.

    I think it was the 6th court that ruled in favor.
    it will be a 5-4 split of course not sure which way it will go.

    the DC court I think ruled the correct way. only state run exchanges were to qualify for the funds. the reason being is that it was another coercion attempt by the administration
    to force states to sign on to obamacare.

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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    If you look at the poll, Jimmy Carter is more popular than Bush.
    not among anyone who was on the 1980 USA olympic team or an alternate
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    why would any sane person want to repeal the second (Amendment).
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    Why would any sane person not want to?

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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

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    What leftwing site did you get that jewel from? There isn't any money in Medicare that hasn't been committed, it is broke thanks to the Unified budget
    Are you denying that, hmm?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Are you denying that, hmm?

    Heard rumors to the affect but nothing specific and since they didn't control the Congress, it is just that rumor. Show me the bill?

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