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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Show me the bill that allowed Congress to spend SS and Medicare money on the operating budget of the United States? Taxes were created to fund different activities. LBJ created the unified Budget which apparently you and other Obama supporters do not understand. Suggest you look up the history and tell me where the people voted for that or even understand it?
    Show me where it says congress can't raise taxes to spend on the laws the people elected them to make?

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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    So you're opposed to all forms of taxation??
    Sounds more like he's opposed to all tax revenue going into a single holding fund and then being distributed from there.

    Perhaps he's suggesting that each bill/department/law/whatever be funded seperatly with it's own tax directly connected to it - as in, say we want to increase funding for weight loss efforts by the department of health or whatnot.

    Impose a 2% tax on some specific food types and put the money into a fund which can only go towards that thing.

    As an example, you understand.

    I think it works that way in many local/state governments? Or some of em at least.
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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

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    And that would make a difference.
    Greetings, Erik.

    I don't understand why Obama would publically question what cases the Supreme Court should hear in the first place. They don't report to him. Things are getting stranger by the day in DC!

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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, Erik.

    I don't understand why Obama would publically question what cases the Supreme Court should hear in the first place. They don't report to him. Things are getting stranger by the day in DC!
    Well, if my iffy memory of the past decade is any indication, various senators and congressman have been bitching about each other, the president, and the courts for years now.

    And various presidents have been doing the same.

    What the hell is new about this?
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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I don't believe it is the other taxpayers' responsibility to pay for someone else's personal responsibility issue. If the states want to do it and get the support from their citizens then so be it, but NOT a national program funded by FIT dollars.
    By that same token, federal tax dollars shouldn't go to states to fund their state highway/road repair/construction projects.

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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, Erik.

    I don't understand why Obama would publically question what cases the Supreme Court should hear in the first place. They don't report to him. Things are getting stranger by the day in DC!
    Evening Pg *hug*

    I'm guessing to cover his own agenda so no one could blame him for not fighting. I wouldn't suspect political pressure as I'm sure the members of the SC are thick skinned and used to it.

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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It really is sad what Obama supporters have made this nation and their total ignorance as to the role of the Federal Govt. and where the money comes from for that govt. It is easy for them to ask for subsidies because they just don't get it, subsidies come from tax revenue paid for by actual taxpayers.

    One of the worst things to ever happen in this country was LBJ creating the unified budget where all tax revenue from all tax sources goes into one pot regardless of what the tax was supposed to fund. That makes it easy for politicians to spend money and then when the item the taxes were to fund runs out of money simply say the program is broke and we need to tax the taxpayers more. Obama supporters have no problem taking from someone else and Obama has no problem promoting wealth redistribution.
    I think it could be argued that the real wealth redistribution has been the slow climb of inflation along with 30+ years of wealth inequality that has taken place in this country not to mention no tax relief for working-class Americans. But let's save that for another thread.
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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Well, if my iffy memory of the past decade is any indication, various senators and congressman have been bitching about each other, the president, and the courts for years now.

    And various presidents have been doing the same.

    What the hell is new about this?
    The case is important to someone, or the SCOTUS would not have been asked to rule on it. Obama stated they shouldn't even be hearing the case, and you don't find anything wrong with that?

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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    The case is important to someone, or the SCOTUS would not have been asked to rule on it. Obama stated they shouldn't even be hearing the case, and you don't find anything wrong with that?
    Well, if he stated it as an opinion, that's not really much of an issue, is it?

    If he's trying to say "you shouldn't have done that" in the sense of "I'm telling you what to do", well he can't, so it's kinda moot.

    What does it matter?

    Maybe I'm missing what about it bugs you?
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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Sounds more like he's opposed to all tax revenue going into a single holding fund and then being distributed from there.

    Perhaps he's suggesting that each bill/department/law/whatever be funded seperatly with it's own tax directly connected to it - as in, say we want to increase funding for weight loss efforts by the department of health or whatnot.

    Impose a 2% tax on some specific food types and put the money into a fund which can only go towards that thing.

    As an example, you understand.

    I think it works that way in many local/state governments? Or some of em at least.
    Yeah, I didn't take it that way based upon his comment that liberals have no problem in taking people's money and giving it to others as a form of redistribution of wealth. Perhaps you missed where he said that. I don't like my tax dollars being taken and given to Israel, or funding the militarization of our police departments, or endless wars, but I guess it is what it is!!
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