Thread: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

Originally Posted by Montecresto

Obama's not the first president to criticize a SCOTUS ruling, and I fail to see the problem with it. So when Bush did it, you disapproved?

Sorry, but I don't specifically recall Bush's criticism of a SCOTUS ruling. That doesn't mean he didn't, it means that I don't recall it.

It has to do with when and where. I don't find SCOTUS ruling criticism in the middle of SOTU appropriate. So if Bush did criticize a SCOTUS ruling during a SOTU, yes, I'd find that inappropriate for the time and place as well.

Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian

Obama's not the only one to do so. So did several others, including Reagan:

Harding 1922: Warren G. Harding: Second Annual Message

Coolidge 1923: Calvin Coolidge: First Annual Message

Roosevelt 1937: Franklin D. Roosevelt: Annual Message to Congress

Eisenhower 1953: Dwight D. Eisenhower: Annual Message to the Congress on the State of the Union

Reagan 1988: Ronald Reagan: Address Before a Joint Session of Congress on the State of the Union

Obama 2010: Barack Obama: Address Before a Joint Session of the Congress on the State of the Union

Seems that history is against me on this one, but I maintain my position. I don't believe that SCOTUS criticism is appropriate for a SOTU.

Originally Posted by Montecresto

Yeah, but they all did it humbly, Obama's tone was disrespectful.

And that would make a difference.

Originally Posted by Montecresto

Yeah, but they all did it humbly, Obama's tone was disrespectful.

That depends on the listener. I was listening, and it didn't sound disrespectful at all to me.

Originally Posted by eohrnberger

Sorry, but I don't specifically recall Bush's criticism of a SCOTUS ruling. That doesn't mean he didn't, it means that I don't recall it.

It has to do with when and where. I don't find SCOTUS ruling criticism in the middle of SOTU appropriate. So if Bush did criticize a SCOTUS ruling during a SOTU, yes, I'd find that inappropriate for the time and place as well.


Seems that history is against me on this one, but I maintain my position. I don't believe that SCOTUS criticism is appropriate for a SOTU.

I agree with that.

Where is it appropriate?

Originally Posted by eohrnberger

Sorry, but I don't specifically recall Bush's criticism of a SCOTUS ruling. That doesn't mean he didn't, it means that I don't recall it.

It has to do with when and where. I don't find SCOTUS ruling criticism in the middle of SOTU appropriate. So if Bush did criticize a SCOTUS ruling during a SOTU, yes, I'd find that inappropriate for the time and place as well.



Seems that history is against me on this one, but I maintain my position. I don't believe that SCOTUS criticism is appropriate for a SOTU.

Is it criticism, or is it admonition? The difference is subtle, but important, and admonition for those who need it certainly has a place in a SOTU address.

Originally Posted by eohrnberger

Sorry, but I don't specifically recall Bush's criticism of a SCOTUS ruling. That doesn't mean he didn't, it means that I don't recall it.

It has to do with when and where. I don't find SCOTUS ruling criticism in the middle of SOTU appropriate. So if Bush did criticize a SCOTUS ruling during a SOTU, yes, I'd find that inappropriate for the time and place as well.



Seems that history is against me on this one, but I maintain my position. I don't believe that SCOTUS criticism is appropriate for a SOTU.

The op hasn't anything to do with a SOTU address. Funny, first it was just plain wrong for Obama to do this, I'm laughing how the goal posts have been moved now that nobody can hide from the fact it's pretty common for a president to do this, we'll have to pick on his time and place. It's the constant partisan bias at DP.

Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian

That depends on the listener. I was listening, and it didn't sound disrespectful at all to me.

I'm sorry that my attempt at sarcasm evaded you, my bad. I agree with you.

Originally Posted by Conservative

Show me the bill that allowed Congress to spend SS and Medicare money on the operating budget of the United States? Taxes were created to fund different activities. LBJ created the unified Budget which apparently you and other Obama supporters do not understand. Suggest you look up the history and tell me where the people voted for that or even understand it?

Republicans want to steal 700 million dollars from Medicare to pay for retraining all those people that are going to loose there jobs due to that sorry TPP treaty. Where's that in the constitution?