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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Obama's not the first president to criticize a SCOTUS ruling, and I fail to see the problem with it. So when Bush did it, you disapproved?
    Sorry, but I don't specifically recall Bush's criticism of a SCOTUS ruling. That doesn't mean he didn't, it means that I don't recall it.

    It has to do with when and where. I don't find SCOTUS ruling criticism in the middle of SOTU appropriate. So if Bush did criticize a SCOTUS ruling during a SOTU, yes, I'd find that inappropriate for the time and place as well.

    Seems that history is against me on this one, but I maintain my position. I don't believe that SCOTUS criticism is appropriate for a SOTU.
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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yeah, but they all did it humbly, Obama's tone was disrespectful.
    And that would make a difference.
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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yeah, but they all did it humbly, Obama's tone was disrespectful.
    That depends on the listener. I was listening, and it didn't sound disrespectful at all to me.
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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Sorry, but I don't specifically recall Bush's criticism of a SCOTUS ruling. That doesn't mean he didn't, it means that I don't recall it.

    It has to do with when and where. I don't find SCOTUS ruling criticism in the middle of SOTU appropriate. So if Bush did criticize a SCOTUS ruling during a SOTU, yes, I'd find that inappropriate for the time and place as well.


    Seems that history is against me on this one, but I maintain my position. I don't believe that SCOTUS criticism is appropriate for a SOTU.
    I agree with that.

    Where is it appropriate?
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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Sorry, but I don't specifically recall Bush's criticism of a SCOTUS ruling. That doesn't mean he didn't, it means that I don't recall it.

    It has to do with when and where. I don't find SCOTUS ruling criticism in the middle of SOTU appropriate. So if Bush did criticize a SCOTUS ruling during a SOTU, yes, I'd find that inappropriate for the time and place as well.



    Seems that history is against me on this one, but I maintain my position. I don't believe that SCOTUS criticism is appropriate for a SOTU.
    Is it criticism, or is it admonition? The difference is subtle, but important, and admonition for those who need it certainly has a place in a SOTU address.
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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Sorry, but I don't specifically recall Bush's criticism of a SCOTUS ruling. That doesn't mean he didn't, it means that I don't recall it.

    It has to do with when and where. I don't find SCOTUS ruling criticism in the middle of SOTU appropriate. So if Bush did criticize a SCOTUS ruling during a SOTU, yes, I'd find that inappropriate for the time and place as well.



    Seems that history is against me on this one, but I maintain my position. I don't believe that SCOTUS criticism is appropriate for a SOTU.
    The op hasn't anything to do with a SOTU address. Funny, first it was just plain wrong for Obama to do this, I'm laughing how the goal posts have been moved now that nobody can hide from the fact it's pretty common for a president to do this, we'll have to pick on his time and place. It's the constant partisan bias at DP.
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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    That depends on the listener. I was listening, and it didn't sound disrespectful at all to me.
    I'm sorry that my attempt at sarcasm evaded you, my bad. I agree with you.
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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Why is it that liberals / progressive / Democrats can't seem to manage to play within the rules? Is it the only way they think that they can win? After all, if their value / policy proposition is guaranteed to make things so much better, why not let it go forth on it's own merits? Oh wait. That's right. their value / policy proposition is almost guaranteed to make things WORSE, so they have to shove it down the nation's throat, come hell, or high water.
    Two can play that game of intimidation. If brushback pitches like this one from Limpwrist are fine for one team to use, then the other team has the right to use them too. Sauce for the goose, etc. I think President Reagan was very good at playing hardball, while doing it with so much geniality and charm that people never seemed to view what he did as dirty or unpresidential. In this case, I think Obama may shoot himself in the foot. Supreme Court justices don't like being pushed, especially when they all know the passage in question is from a sorry 2,000 page piece of garbage which is riddled with internal contradictions, and which no one who voted "Aye" had even bothered to read. They already bailed out the Obamacare law once by telling Congress what it really meant to say, and they may be sick of being asked, again, to save the Gruberites from their own piss-poor drafting.

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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Taxes pay for whatever the people vote for them to pay for and millions of Americans voted for the ACA when they elected Obama.
    Show me the bill that allowed Congress to spend SS and Medicare money on the operating budget of the United States? Taxes were created to fund different activities. LBJ created the unified Budget which apparently you and other Obama supporters do not understand. Suggest you look up the history and tell me where the people voted for that or even understand it?

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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Show me the bill that allowed Congress to spend SS and Medicare money on the operating budget of the United States? Taxes were created to fund different activities. LBJ created the unified Budget which apparently you and other Obama supporters do not understand. Suggest you look up the history and tell me where the people voted for that or even understand it?
    Republicans want to steal 700 million dollars from Medicare to pay for retraining all those people that are going to loose there jobs due to that sorry TPP treaty. Where's that in the constitution?
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