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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Wonder if you have the stones to admit what the outcry would be today had that been Bush saying what Obama said?
    What do you mean, the partisan left would have raised hell, just like they did when Bush in fact criticized a SCOTUS ruling. That's what you partisan hacks on both sides do. Personally, I had no problem with Bush doing it, and I have no problem with Obama doing it. Bet it didn't bother you when Bush did it.
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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It's not appropriate because a democrat is criticizing a potential decision that may derail a piece of the PPACA, and make you happy. I doubt you were bitching when Bush did the same thing.
    I do believe that you'd be wrong in your assertion there.

    Granted, I'm no fan of ObamaCare, that's no secret, but there's good leadership and proper deference and decorum commensurate with the office.
    Obama has exhibited none of these things, and he should have. I'd bitch just as much had these things not been observed by ANY president.
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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    The political left should hope that they aren't left hanging with this thing. They should be hoping the SC shoots it down. This should be fun to watch no matter what happens.
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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    I agree that the stunt President Pinocchio pulled about Citizens United, with the justices sitting right there in front of him, WAS very poor form. But aside from the fact this speech could have an effect just opposite the one intended, it is fairly tepid meddling, by historical standards. Franklin Roosevelt was determined to get rid of a couple justices who had been voting against his New Deal schemes--so determined that near the start of his second term, he suggested a clever new scheme for the Court. This would have increased it to twelve justices, while imposing a maximum age limit that would have forced his adversaries out. This "court packing" scheme was a clear attempt to bully the Court into calling things FDR's way, and even though it never was carried out, just the threat of it seems to have produced the desired results.
    Why is it that liberals / progressive / Democrats can't seem to manage to play within the rules? Is it the only way they think that they can win? After all, if their value / policy proposition is guaranteed to make things so much better, why not let it go forth on it's own merits? Oh wait. That's right. their value / policy proposition is almost guaranteed to make things WORSE, so they have to shove it down the nation's throat, come hell, or high water.
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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    I do believe that you'd be wrong in your assertion there.

    Granted, I'm no fan of ObamaCare, that's no secret, but there's good leadership and proper deference and decorum commensurate with the office.
    Obama has exhibited none of these things, and he should have. I'd bitch just as much had these things not been observed by ANY president.
    Obama's not the first president to criticize a SCOTUS ruling, and I fail to see the problem with it. So when Bush did it, you disapproved?
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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Obama's not the first president to criticize a SCOTUS ruling, and I fail to see the problem with it. So when Bush did it, you disapproved?
    It is how he did it and the tone in which he did it, not the first time. It was very personal as was his speech at the state of the union. Obama has zero class, lacks leadership, and improper decorum on the public stage. He continues to show his incompetence.

    I know of no other President in modern history to make it personal with the Supreme Court

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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Why is it that liberals / progressive / Democrats can't seem to manage to play within the rules? Is it the only way they think that they can win? After all, if their value / policy proposition is guaranteed to make things so much better, why not let it go forth on it's own merits? Oh wait. That's right. their value / policy proposition is almost guaranteed to make things WORSE, so they have to shove it down the nation's throat, come hell, or high water.
    Obama's not the only one to do so. So did several others, including Reagan:

    Harding 1922: Warren G. Harding: Second Annual Message

    Coolidge 1923: Calvin Coolidge: First Annual Message

    Roosevelt 1937: Franklin D. Roosevelt: Annual Message to Congress

    Eisenhower 1953: Dwight D. Eisenhower: Annual Message to the Congress on the State of the Union

    Reagan 1988: Ronald Reagan: Address Before a Joint Session of Congress on the State of the Union

    Obama 2010: Barack Obama: Address Before a Joint Session of the Congress on the State of the Union
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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Glen, wack of reading, can you give me the readers Digest version please.
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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

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    What really bothers me is people who don't understand what taxes they pay and where the money is supposed to go. Schools aren't funded by Federal Tax dollars, but rather state and local dollars. Police, schools, and fire fighters-state and local taxes. You continue to prove me point.

    Taxes pay for whatever the people vote for them to pay for and millions of Americans voted for the ACA when they elected Obama.
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    Re: Obama says Supreme Court should never have taken up health law case

    Yeah, but they all did it humbly, Obama's tone was disrespectful.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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