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    re: U.S. Soldier Who Killed 16 Afghans feels guilt and fear [W:63]

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    False. He is in prison for murdering Afghan civilians. It seems clear that his disregard for authority was his problem.
    I thought, that was what I had said. But never mind.

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    re: U.S. Soldier Who Killed 16 Afghans feels guilt and fear [W:63]

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Parker View Post
    U.S. Soldier Who Killed 16 Afghans: 'I Became Callous To Them Even Being Human'



    Reminds me of Chris Kyle and Eastwoods' "American Sniper", the movie shocked me so deeply.

    A man who kills whom he thinks is an enemy is guided by God, some say.
    It seems to be a good thing from the start and in terms of fighting spirit of an Army it is the best but what comes next?

    I have too many examples of a peaceful life to stop existing for a man who returned from a campaign.

    What is a Sacrifice for democracy?
    In bayonet training, the drill instructor used to yell, "what is the spirit of the bayonet." We were supposed to yell, "to kill". I always thought that was a little foolish but in an all volunteer army there are some things you are expected to do. If the young man couldn't handle it, he should have chosen option B.
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    re: U.S. Soldier Who Killed 16 Afghans feels guilt and fear [W:63]

    "My mind was consumed by war," Bales wrote late last year.
    Then he must be justified!
    Chris Kyle is being presented everywhere as a hero including the notorious movie, Robert Bales is being presented as a psycho. Great success.

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    re: U.S. Soldier Who Killed 16 Afghans feels guilt and fear [W:63]

    Quote Originally Posted by prison/con.net View Post
    that's fine with me. I'm not worth it. Come on home, all of you. soldiers and sailors. build a double fence on our mex border. man the rifle towers every 1/4 mile of it, 24-7, and find and kick out the invaders who are already HERE. Stop worrying about some "maybe someday " enemy when you are not dealing with the "right here, right NOW " enemy.
    YEAH@!!1!!11!

    Why kill brown men over seas when you can do it right here at home! amirite?
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    re: U.S. Soldier Who Killed 16 Afghans feels guilt and fear [W:63]

    Awww poor baby, it's almost like he was the one being murdered - my reaction to thread title and article. He doesn't seem to understand the people he killed don't get to appeal their fate

    should've been screened out long before his 4th tour. Then again, should operations should never have continued there long enough to allow for 4 freaking tours

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    re: U.S. Soldier Who Killed 16 Afghans feels guilt and fear [W:63]

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    Do you honestly believe the afghani invasion was a way to spread democracy?

    Even if it was, what gives us the right to kill anyone in our perceived ideal political structure?
    There is no such thing as a right to kill - except in Islam. We do it in an attempt to defeat an enemy.

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    re: U.S. Soldier Who Killed 16 Afghans feels guilt and fear [W:63]

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    There is no such thing as a right to kill - except in Islam. We do it in an attempt to defeat an enemy.
    Old Testament = Eye for an eye as well... Don't be so quick to just submit that only Islam grants a right to kill every culture has substantial subjective differences on who or what is entitled to kill and who or what isn't. For instance, we might view abortion as a legal right to women, which I do not, meanwhile orthodox Islam might view it as murder.

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    re: U.S. Soldier Who Killed 16 Afghans feels guilt and fear [W:63]

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Parker View Post
    U.S. Soldier Who Killed 16 Afghans: 'I Became Callous To Them Even Being Human'

    Reminds me of Chris Kyle and Eastwoods' "American Sniper", the movie shocked me so deeply.
    A man who kills whom he thinks is an enemy is guided by God, some say.
    It seems to be a good thing from the start and in terms of fighting spirit of an Army it is the best but what comes next?

    I have too many examples of a peaceful life to stop existing for a man who returned from a campaign.

    What is a Sacrifice for democracy?
    We think we are desensitized from violence by the sanitized version shown on TV, video games, and even our own imagination. I seriously doubt that's true. One need only ask a soldier after the battle is done (for him) or the cop who's killed or the driver whose actions have cost lives or the person who has taken a life in self-defense.

    One of my CCW instructors ate his way out of the torment he felt by gaining 200 pounds. His body count is 61 with his service weapon and countless with his bombing raids. It is the one-on-ones that haunt him most. He says he can remember each of them. The pop-pop-pop, the smell of gunpowder, the blaze of the muzzle...everything switching to slow motion as if it were a movie reel...the recoil...the blood...the life preparing to leave his enemy...and, finally, the 'off switch' being set.

    Tom has told me sketchy details of his best buddy's Vietnam Nam tour. A marine, he was constant point man on missions -- because he trusted no one else for the job. He was a ruthless killing machine after a while. No details here. He fought not so much for his country as he fought for the men at his side. He is a changed man, needless to say. Never married or had kids. But a very nice man to the peaceful world. He, though, doesn't think so.

    We are hard wired to find killing each other abhorrent. Anyone who thinks they can kill another human being and simply chalk it up to "It was either him or me," has watched too many cop shows.

    As to "what price Democracy," my answer would still be "Whatever it takes."
    The devil whispered in my ear, "You cannot withstand the storm." I whispered back, "I am ​the storm."

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    re: U.S. Soldier Who Killed 16 Afghans feels guilt and fear [W:63]

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    Old Testament = Eye for an eye as well... Don't be so quick to just submit that only Islam grants a right to kill every culture has substantial subjective differences on who or what is entitled to kill and who or what isn't. For instance, we might view abortion as a legal right to women, which I do not, meanwhile orthodox Islam might view it as murder.
    Neither judaism or christianity claim a right to kill.

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    re: U.S. Soldier Who Killed 16 Afghans feels guilt and fear [W:63]

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    Neither judaism or christianity claim a right to kill.
    Ummm what is eye for an eye, and have you ever heard of the inquisition or the witch trials?

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