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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Maybe the cop seen an advertisement like this and thats why he wanted to join? jk

    Officer Barrel Roll just wanted to get in on some of this sweet cavalier action.


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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    1. Lame replies considering that has already been addressed.
    2. Even more lame as it is an appeal to authority showing that neither of you can refute what has already been presented.

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    Appeal to authority isn't really a logical fallacy when they are....you know, the authority on the matter.

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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The sound refutations are through out the first 30 pages of the thread. As is usual, you're on the fringe. You would make a great colonel in a police state though.

    Again, as usual, you are wrong.
    The only sound refutations were made against the bs you argued.





    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    Appeal to authority isn't really a logical fallacy when they are....you know, the authority on the matter.

    Except that he is not.
    A review would have been the authority on the matter or if then appealed or taken to court, that final step would be the authority.
    But that isn't going to happen now.

    Though he is not the authority, lets say he is. Whether or not it is as he claimed is open for debate, which makes relying on the claimant as the authority illogical.
    Again. It is obvious that politics and CYA from the BGI is being played.


    Regardless, you can not refute the following and neither has the Chief.
    Nothing he did was criminal or racist. The only thing that can really be said is that his swearing was unprofessional.

    His action in forcing the resisting girl to the ground was justified.
    His action in drawing his firearm was justified.
    His action in detaining individuals to ascertain what was going on was justified.
    His attitude to those who did not listen to what they were told was justified.
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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Yet he resigned...
    Don't work out, work in.

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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    His action in forcing the resisting girl to the ground was justified.
    His action in drawing his firearm was justified.
    His action in detaining individuals to ascertain what was going on was justified.
    His attitude to those who did not listen to what they were told was justified.
    In your opinion that was all justified. In your very highly biased opinion. However in the opinion of the vast majority of the population, including his superiors, his actions were not justified. The circumstances that brought on his actions were caused by him. He arrived at a non violent event and turned it into a violent situation.

    I know some people feel that cops can do whatever they want, treat people however they want, and should never be questioned. But most Americans don't feel that way. Most people expect a police officer arriving to help the situation, not make it worse. Most people expect a police officer to act with a certain level of discipline, professionalism, and respect while they are working. This officer showed none of that.
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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    In your opinion that was all justified. In your very highly biased opinion. However in the opinion of the vast majority of the population, including his superiors, his actions were not justified. The circumstances that brought on his actions were caused by him. He arrived at a non violent event and turned it into a violent situation.

    I know some people feel that cops can do whatever they want, treat people however they want, and should never be questioned. But most Americans don't feel that way. Most people expect a police officer arriving to help the situation, not make it worse. Most people expect a police officer to act with a certain level of discipline, professionalism, and respect while they are working. This officer showed none of that.
    You really should have paid attention to what you read.


    Secondly, show how any of his actions (besides swearing) was against policy, protocol, or training.
    You can not do it.
    And no, the only ones who made things worse were those who failed to comply and acted aggressively towards the Officer.
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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    lol.

    The Police Chief, literally that man's boss, isn't the authority.

    lolol

    He called Casebolt's actions “indefensible” and “out of control.”

    "Conley emphasized that 11 out of 12 officers on scene “performed according to their training.” He decried those who violated community rules and disrespected authorities during the incident, but also made clear that Casebolt, as a police officer, is held to a higher standard.

    Our policies, our training and our practice do not support his actions,” Conley said during a press conference Tuesday evening."

    McKinney officer Eric Casebolt resigns; police chief calls actions at pool party ‘indefensible’ | | Dallas Morning News

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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    The Police Chief, literally that man's boss, isn't the authority.
    A lame reply.
    He is not the authority on his actions. The review board would have been.
    Do you or do you not understand that?


    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    He called Casebolt's actions “indefensible” and “out of control.”

    "Conley emphasized that 11 out of 12 officers on scene “performed according to their training.” He decried those who violated community rules and disrespected authorities during the incident, but also made clear that Casebolt, as a police officer, is held to a higher standard.

    Our policies, our training and our practice do not support his actions,” Conley said during a press conference Tuesday evening."

    Irrelevant, illogical and an ignorant reply to that what was already pointed out.
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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You really should have paid attention to what you read.


    Secondly, show how any of his actions (besides swearing) was against policy, protocol, or training.
    You can not do it.
    And no, the only ones who made things worse were those who failed to comply and acted aggressively towards the Officer.
    Who showed aggression toward the officer? They only thing they did was walk away because he had no reason to detain them. He pulled a gun on unarmed children. He used force to restrain a child who he had no reason to believe was doing anything wrong. Show me where in his policy, protocol or training it says an officer should show up at a relatively calm scene and pull guns and use force on kids, and turn what should have been a very simple issue into a national media event. Show me where in his policy, protocol or training it says and officer should let his emotions take control and should overreact to a situation because he feels disrespected by teens. Show me where in his policy, protocol or training it says he can do whatever he wants to whoever he wants because he is a cop and rules dont apply to him.
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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Irrelevant, illogical and an ignorant reply to that what was already pointed out.
    Originally Posted by Paperview

    He called Casebolt's actions “indefensible” and “out of control.”

    "Conley emphasized that 11 out of 12 officers on scene “performed according to their training.” He decried those who violated community rules and disrespected authorities during the incident, but also made clear that Casebolt, as a police officer, is held to a higher standard.

    Our policies, our training and our practice do not support his actions,” Conley said during a press conference Tuesday evening."



    Deny all you want. Really. It makes for hilarious reading.

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