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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    he was probably talking about when he was a teenager / child old enough to know what he was doing.

    Example: my boys aren't aggressive (ever) with grownups. The reason for this is simple. My older boy once punched his mother when he was (I think) 5. The resulting spanking has insured that he never did that again, and his brother learned from watching him very carefully never do that ever, because that will result in Dad going absolutely ape**** on your butt. As my sons grow, the likelihood that I will have to worry about them becoming the kind of people who think it's funny to beat up old people is therefore miniscule. Because at a deep, hind-brain level they will know that that is not only wrong, but an extremely dangerous decision for them to make.
    Your younger is what I call a smart man. Some people say that a smart man learns from his mistakes. I disagree. I say a man of average intelligence learns from his mistakes. A smart man learns from someone else's.

    That being said, even a firm hand cannot always contain teen angst and hormones getting the best of them.

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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Your younger is what I call a smart man. Some people say that a smart man learns from his mistakes. I disagree. I say a man of average intelligence learns from his mistakes. A smart man learns from someone else's.
    We were worried he was dumber than his brother for some time because he was so quiet and seemed so disinterested. Then he started randomly busting out stuff that we had no idea he was learning. We didn't "teach" him math, but he taught himself how to do columns in his head. We didn't teach him memorization, but he memorized poetry. We're still not quite sure how to deal with him on that front.

    That being said, even a firm hand cannot always contain teen angst and hormones getting the best of them.
    It certainly can, the problem being that society now frowns upon that sort of thing. In this case, everyone is very angry at a cop for attempting to do so.

    You want to see teens who are self-selected for domineering, alpha behavior, convinced of their own indestructibility, full of anger and rampaging hormones who are yet contained by a firm hand? Go take a look at Marine Corps Boot Camp or spend some time with the Marine Corps Infantry. You'll note the tactics that are used (when they are allowed to be used) will upset the Mothers Of America Who Want Their Precious Babies Enabled At All Times..... but are also effective.

    We had a kid off the streets of new york who came in who was convinced he was better, tougher, and smarter than all of his seniors. A day or so spent doing elevated pushups off his rack while we took turns kicking him in the ribs took care of that, and then he was a fantastic Marine - one of our best.


    When you don't nip these problems in the bud as younguns, the lengths you have to go to grows exponentially along with them. You have to provide a teenager with the equivalent of someone literally 3-4 times his size using sudden, sure, physical violence against him which he is completely powerless to stop. That's a high ticket for that kid to have to pay because his parents weren't willing to. If kids who aren't taught to respect others are allowed to grow to full adults, eventually, you sometimes have to either incarcerate them for extended periods or even kill them. It's almost always better to correct when they are young.
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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    We were worried he was dumber than his brother for some time because he was so quiet and seemed so disinterested. Then he started randomly busting out stuff that we had no idea he was learning. We didn't "teach" him math, but he taught himself how to do columns in his head. We didn't teach him memorization, but he memorized poetry. We're still not quite sure how to deal with him on that front.



    It certainly can, the problem being that society now frowns upon that sort of thing. In this case, everyone is very angry at a cop for attempting to do so.

    You want to see teens who are self-selected for domineering, alpha behavior, convinced of their own indestructibility, full of anger and piss and vinegar, and are yet contained by a firm hand? Go take a look at Marine Corps Boot Camp or spend some time with the Marine Corps Infantry. You'll note the tactics that are used (when they are allowed to be used) will upset the Mothers Of America Who Want Their Precious Babies Enabled At All Times..... but are also effective.

    We had a kid off the streets of new york who came in who was convinced he was better, tougher, and smarter than all of his seniors. A day or so spent doing elevated pushups off his rack while we took turns kicking him in the ribs took care of that, and then he was a fantastic Marine - one of our best.
    My experience with iron fisted parenting that I saw A LOT of in the south is that those kids ended up being the most absolute worst when out of site of said parents.

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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    We had a kid off the streets of new york who came in who was convinced he was better, tougher, and smarter than all of his seniors. A day or so spent doing elevated pushups off his rack while we took turns kicking him in the ribs took care of that, and then he was a fantastic Marine - one of our best.
    How does abuse teach someone the abuser(s) are better? In my unit we lead by example and with honor.

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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    What do you think will happen when all cops have body cams and a cop beats the **** out of a homeless person for no reason, so 5 people rush in to citizen arrest the abusive cop only for the cop to shoot them all? First his abuse will be caught. Then his murder of a group of pepole performing a lawful detention will be shown. What do you think happens next when the public sees this? Maybe it will make cops think twice about beating nonvoilent people. If a cop is a criminal then he isnt a real cop.

    Then when additional cops get there they can draw weapons if they see threat to the cop, but if all they see is what cops do to us, detain us and shove them face first in the ground. Then they cant do anything about it but detain everyone as they revue footage and determine if it was a lawful cit's arrest of a abusive cop.

    Eventually people are going to start rushing to help people that cops are abusing, the more and more people know the situation is being recorded. Better plan ahead and are you really going to side with killing them all?

    Either the cops start arresting the abusive cops right away or they step aside until civil arrest is complete.
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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The chief of police disagrees with Excon.
    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So does Oficer Casebolt

    1. Lame replies considering that has already been addressed.
    2. Even more lame as it is an appeal to authority showing that neither of you can refute what has already been presented.





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    And the Mayor ...

    Besides the above also applying to you, all you are doing is showing that you know not of what you speak in regards to the Mayor.
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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    How does abuse teach someone the abuser(s) are better? In my unit we lead by example and with honor.
    It doesn't, it teaches them not to be a disrespectful dumbass and to do what they are told. You can't build a positive relationship until you've established the rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob
    My experience with iron fisted parenting that I saw A LOT of in the south is that those kids ended up being the most absolute worst when out of site of said parents.
    I couldn't speak to iron-fisted parenting. I would say that the folks I've seen who are the worst are the ones whose parents taught them (or allowed them to believe) that they were entitled, and could get away with acting like that.
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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The same place we find people who haven't a clue what 15 year old girls are capable of.
    Good Lord.

    Teddy Roosevelt is rolling in his grave seeing what Americans have become.

    It isn't enough that you're afraid of a communist or terrorist hiding behind every bush, now you're frightened of children too.

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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by WSUwarrior View Post
    Now lets see you run into a pack of 100 of them BY YOURSELF and make them listen.
    Let's see.

    No property was damaged.

    Nothing was stolen.

    Nobody was killed.

    Nobody was injured (by anyone other than the police).

    No weapons were discovered.

    Nothing was stolen.

    So basically "them" is a pack of 100 non-violent, suburban kids?

    Yeah.

    I wouldn't wade in to THAT kind of firestorm by myself under ANY circumstances.

    You'd need to be some kind of hero to walk in to that.

    LOL

    Oh wait, youre probably scared to leave your house if a couple of "them" are outside.
    Yeah.

    If I see a group of children milling around outside I call a "sheepdog" to come protect me.

    LMAO

    I haven't decided yet whether you're just a troll or whether you actually believe that America needs cops like these.
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    And the epitaph drear: “A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.”

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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    1. Lame replies considering that has already been addressed.
    2. Even more lame as it is an appeal to authority showing that neither of you can refute what has already been presented.






    Besides the above also applying to you, all you are doing is showing that you know not of what you speak in regards to the Mayor.
    The sound refutations are through out the first 30 pages of the thread. As is usual, you're on the fringe. You would make a great colonel in a police state though.
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