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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by WSUwarrior View Post
    "Bad cops" in your eyes are the Type A heroes that solve problems quickly and efficiently and dont care about what some liberal Type B personality intoverted nerd thinks of them.


    The officer acted appropriately ACCORDING TO THE SITUATION. If he acted this way to a noise complaint between two neighbors then you MIGHT have a point but the FACTS show that he was by himself, surrounded by out of control thugs causing problems, then was ATTACKED by both females (that he pushed away) and two makes, one of which reached at his waistband (hence why this great officer drew his gun) and the attackers backed away. No one got shot, no one got hurt...well....except the officers family, who now have an unemployed father who had to resign for doing his job.

    And after listening to the cowardly, nutless McKinney police chief, I dont blame him for resigning. I wouldnt want to work for that pussy ass bitch either.
    I have no problem with a cop using necessary force, all the way to lethal. All according to first the constitution and second department conduct codes and ethics. The police chief agrees with me. Of course the chief is being accused of CYA and throwing the cop under the bus.
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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I have no problem with a cop using necessary force, all the way to lethal. All according to first the constitution and second department conduct codes and ethics. The police chief agrees with me. Of course the chief is being accused of CYA and throwing the cop under the bus.
    Which is exactly what he did. He didnt stand up for justice, he didnt stand up for the facts, he stood up for his own self interests. If I was the police chief there I would have told the juvenile delinquents to grow up, start behaving, and get used to behaving quick. If I was the police chief there I would assure the community that I am there to protect the law abiding citizens, not the rabble causing trouble. These delinquents were jumping fences into neighborhoods that werent theirs, they were playing loud, profane music with little kids around, they were arguing with residents of the gated community, the cops get called....but its the COPS who are in the wrong? You arent pissed that these 100 idiots are trespassing and screwing around unsupervised? You dont care about that at all? Invite this type of party into your neighborhood.

    Im a believer in the broken windows theory. Can you tell?
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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    I am not sure if this has been posted...I apologize if posted on previous pages of the thread. Not defending the actions, but the cop did respond to 2 suicide calls prior to the pool party. The first one was ghastly followed immediately with another attempt. He should have been sent home after the first suicide for the evening. The video's make all of these guys look so bad...but they don't always tell the whole story. He appeared to be a insane maniac from the video...but after reading this article, you might see his actions differently.

    McKinney police officer apologizes, blames emotional stress for aggression at pool party

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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by WSUwarrior View Post
    And from looking at the officers resume, he will be unemployed for about 5 minutes.
    I have no doubt in that.

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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by WSUwarrior View Post
    Which is exactly what he did. He didnt stand up for justice, he didnt stand up for the facts, he stood up for his own self interests. If I was the police chief there I would have told the juvenile delinquents to grow up, start behaving, and get used to behaving quick. If I was the police chief there I would assure the community that I am there to protect the law abiding citizens, not the rabble causing trouble. These delinquents were jumping fences into neighborhoods that werent theirs, they were playing loud, profane music with little kids around, they were arguing with residents of the gated community, the cops get called....but its the COPS who are in the wrong? You arent pissed that these 100 idiots are trespassing and screwing around unsupervised? You dont care about that at all? Invite this type of party into your neighborhood.

    Im a believer in the broken windows theory. Can you tell?
    Yes, you would have said all that right before we fired you, too!
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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by WSUwarrior View Post
    Uhhhh I can charge you with anything (as long as I have probable cause), that doesnt mean you will be found guilty, or even you will even actually be charged....that is up to the DA. But did this officer have probable cause to arrest for trespassing? Yes he did. But that was just one charge. Like I said...disorderly conduct as well as obstruction. Good ol trifecta for ol Shaniqua Jones.



    Um...no...Id leave. What would I gain by sticking around, mouthing off, and getting arrested?



    Arbitrarily? They were trespassing and disturbing the peace! Stop trying to change the story to fit your LIBERAL (youre not libertarian...libertarians believe in law and order. You are liberal scum.) AGENDA.



    He was called to control an OUT of control party with around 100 people there. He can detain whomever the **** he wants to as they are all under suspicion of committing a crime.



    Of course you think its unnecessary...you didnt have to live in that community and put up with that bull****. If I lived in that community I would want to whoop that police chiefs ass for firing a warrior sheepdog who keeps the LAW ABIDING RESPECTFUL CITIZENS safe, instead of being a passive aggressive pussy trying to sweet talk thugs into compliance. Guess what LIB, thugs dont listen, juvenile delinquents dont listen. Stop treating thugs and juvenile delinquents as victims. We sane people are pretty ****ing sick of your enabling. You are like the loser husband for keeps ordering Pizza Hut for his 700 lb bed ridden pig of a wife. Stop teaching these turds that its ok to act this way.



    Ok, Hillary.
    Well he blew his ****ing trifecta when he violated protocol with excessive force. Now then he's been trifecta'd.
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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    I can't believe how sick some people on this forum actually are!
    I am still trying to quit smoking so don't SCREW with me!!

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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party[W:367]

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    Apparently, you don't realize
    As I said;
    Apparently you do not understand he is playing politics and CYA. Hopefully the residents have him fired.


    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    this officer was out of control and broke policy & procedure, which is why he is out of a job - the Chief is still there, and if I was a local citizen he'd have my support!
    Your reply is lame.
    You would have to know what the policies and procedures were in the first pace. You do not.

    While I do not know McKinney's PD's Policy and Procedures it is not likely that they deviate from those I do know.
    Based on those I do know, nothing that happened could even be considered such.

    But for tripping, the Officer was not out of control at any other moment.
    You can not point to anything done (but for swearing) that was not within the policies and procedures, and neither has the Chief.

    He detained teens to ascertain what was going on.
    Some of those he detained took off. He gave chase.
    While securing the scene and dispersing a gathered crowd a girl refused to comply with the instructions given. When he went to detain her she resisted precipitating the use of more force in order to subdue her.
    While attempting to subdue her, a male approached in a very hostile and threatening manner precipitation the Officer pulling his firearm.

    None of these things were wrong. None of them violated policy or procedure nor can you show that they actually did.
    All you can do is rely on the logical fallacy of an "appeal to authority" that hasn't even backed up by that authority.


    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    Guys like him (if uncorrected) cost their departments (and ultimately the citizen taxpayers) tons of money & time in lawsuits, while costing their departments huge losses of goodwill, to say nothing of the injuries caused the good citizens.
    Wrong.


    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    Already several civil suits have been brought forth, I suspect with more to follow. There's no reason for the citizen taxpayers to be both the victims of his behaviour, and the responsible parties to his financial liability.
    There has been nothing shown deserving of a law suit.

    And as with many a law suit, it is cheaper to settle than litigate even when the allegations are false.
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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party[W:367]

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Have you considered the possibility that the Chief of Police might have a bit more information about the events at hand than you?
    We have the video to judge those specific incidents.


    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    he has access to most of the witnesses of the event,
    A witnesses opinion does not change what we can see on the video.


    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    especially the fellow officers AND has access to the officer in questions personnel record (he knows the guy).
    None of which can change what we see on the video, which this is about.


    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Perhaps the Chief of Police is doing HIS job?
    No. He is playing politics and CYA, just as the Officer is now doing.


    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Just a thought for you to perhaps ponder for a moment between your many less informed tirades....
    Lame reply and just shows how ill-informed you are.


    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Sorry pal, I really hate to burst your bubble, but there are some bad apples in the police force. Some of these guys are violent by nature (domestic abuse is 2 to 4 times higher amongst families than the general populace http://www.purpleberets.org/violence..._families.html) and others get off on the authority they have.
    iLOL Speaking of tirades. Ha. ha, ha.
    self-report that they have used violence against their domestic partners within the last year. In the general population, it's estimated that domestic violence occurs in about 10% of families.
    These are not hard numbers and I would bet that one could question what they classify as violence as well.

    Nothing you just provided was relevant.


    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Smart phones are showing us all what many have been telling us for years.
    iLOL
    What they are confirming is what the rational folks have believed all along. Most of the claims made are exaggerated false bs.


    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    You really should learn to pick your battles. Some (but probably not all) of the things we have discussed on these boards are bad cops doing bad things where the cop was in the wrong and should be fired or prosecuted. Defending every single outrageous behavior by cops is going to tarnish your credibility because you are not right on all of them.

    You are just showing the typical behavior of what a person who is unable debate the topic does, they focus on the individual instead.


    Your above comment is again you showing your ignorance.
    You see what you want to see bercause you ignore information and don't avail your self of reality.
    You are wrong all the way around on this.

    Besides the fact that you are wrong, this attempt of yours is equally stupid as this is not about me or what you think of me. So get a grip and cease with the tirades.
    Either argue the known information of dont participate.
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