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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    She says she was physically involved in the initial altercation. That's absolutely "involved".

    Actually, she explains how the handcuffs happened in the video right here - New video shows different angle of pool party incident

    As an aside, I love it when she says "half the kids weren't even involved". That pretty much nails down that the other half were involved.
    I saw two of her interviews and in both of them when she goes to describe the supposed aggressiveness from others, she looks up and to her right. And does so repeatedly throughout the interview.
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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    You spout that crap now....until you need a cop.
    They won't be "freaking idiots" or "twits" then, will they?
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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I understand more about what transpired...basically it was a pool party hosted by a Black teen that got out of control.
    No. It was not a pool party. It was a gathering that was against the regulations.
    A party were she says she only invited a few friends. (a lie. She posted twitter promotional fliers.)
    By community regulation, you are only allowed to have 20 guest if you pay for a pool party. There is no indication that she did that.

    And no she was not a teen. She is 20 years old (unless she lied about her birth date as well) trying to make money off the party.
    Hopefully the community finds a valid reason to sue her and her mother for the disturbance they brought about.


    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I'm not sure if this has been posted yet, but there's another video (approximate 12 minutes long) that captures more of what transpired at the scene than what's been reported.


    The only 12 min video available was one that just repeated portions of the whole video previously shown.
    There was nothing new in it.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13HGvi-N1N0


    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    The cop that's the focus of the video clearly attempted to round up as many Black teens as he could see. That much is evident by the fact that off all the people gathered around - both Whites and Blacks - he only goes after the Black kids.
    (Even though I see you later changed your position on this I will still reply to such statements(*) as they need to be exposed for what they are, biased bs.)
    Bs.
    1. The majority of the invaders were black.
    2. Most of the people he by-passed were black.
    3. The 20 year old organizer's 14 year old friend who was white was also detained and placed in cuffs.


    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Now, before anyone says anything stupid like, "Well, they shouldn't have been mouthing off or being disruptive or disrespectful, etc., etc" the Black boys he makes sit down curbside weren't running or saying anything at the time he confronts them.
    Irrelevant.
    He told them to stay put and they didn't.
    When one told him that he was just going to a birthday party, he told him that he would figure that out in a minute indicating that they were being detained to ascertain what was happening.


    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    In fact, just prior to the incident with the teen-aged Black girl, the cop approaches two Black male teens who were walking away minding their own business and he stops them and even places one of them in cuffs. Why? Could this have been a case of racial profiling, i.e., "I don't know which Black person caused the problem. So, I'm going to round up every Black person I see." It's possible...really can't dispute it since the only people this cop seemed to go after were the Black kids. And there were plenty of White teens standing around as well.
    (*)

    What an absurd position.
    There were more blacks not detained that were milling about.
    Obviously that escapes your bias.


    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    (Yes! He was very out of control especially with his language not to mention his aggressive actions.) But the kids being by-standers and calling out the officer's inappropriate behavior is no excuse for the officer to go around rounding up every Black kid he saw.
    1. This is you not paying attention to the video or to why the police were called.
    2. His language? These very kids were listening to worse language in the music they had been listening to.


    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    But when you consider how other teens were trying to sneak their friends into the pool area by passing their invitation/pass over the poor area fence, it kinda makes sense that they were the only people being pursued.
    While that is the 20 year old's account (passing of a pass) the other accounts were that they were jumping over the fence. Which just shows this girl is trying to dishonestly spin the story.


    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    That said, this cop's behavior was still uncalled for.
    No it really wasn't.
    His action in forcing the resisting girl to the ground was justified.
    His action in drawing his firearm was justified.
    His action in detaining individuals to ascertain what was going on was justified.
    His attitude to those who did not listen to what they were told was justified.

    The Chief playing politics and CYA matters not to those facts, and now that he has resigned it is likely an investigation will use him as a scapegoat but without charges.
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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Also, what was with the ninja roll?
    It is pretty obvious he tripped.


    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Cop was justified, IMO. Kids were being aggressive and threatening.
    Bull**** they were.
    I see you do not like paying attention to the facts.
    They were aggressive and threatening.

    And keep in mind that this isn't the only report of it's kind.




    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, what the liberals are saying is don't have the cops put their knee on the necks of teenage girls who aren't being violent.
    Why are liberals talking about something that didn't happen?
    If they are talking about that they sure are ignorant of the facts, which would be typical.





    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I'm still wondering if the white woman that started the fight and struck a minor is going to be contacted.

    That is an allegation that doesn't seem to be supported.
    They claim racist remarks were made yet fail to state any.

    And if you bother to watch the girls speak, they both look up and to her right while speaking of what happened indicating they are making it up.

    What is funny is that they both really do not speak to their actions, though the black girl has made it clear in posts elsewhere that she was the aggressive one.
    They are not innocent.
    The fact that the black girl went and scrubbed most of her social media accounts and lawyered-up is also very telling.





    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    See now that makes a tiny bit more sense. The host invited mostly black people to her event. Then seperate people crashed it. And everyone just decides to blame ALL the darkies. Like all black people are instantly on the same team.

    I think what this really comes down to is host threw an open party for ANY and ALL classmates and the white people didint like it. So technically they were invited, just not invited by everyone and not invited properly because she didnt have permission to host (i assume). And everyone was quick to treat all the blacks as a mob whos only goal was to sneak into a place they were not allowed. Even the cavalier cop. You can tell many of the kids were bewildered at the cops actions as they kept saying "whhhhaaattt the ****kk???" as he Paul Blart'd around.
    You keep getting corrected, yet you keep spewing the same bs.
    She was a 20 year old who organizes events like this. What the heck do you mean classmates?
    A 14 year old is a 20 year old's classmate?

    She threw a party that was agaisnt the regulations. Period.


    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Guess I can agree to that. Still think its odd that the cop only targeted black people though.

    No. You choose to see racism where there is none.
    That problem resides wholly in your own thoughts.
    What you choose not to recognize is that there were more blacks milling about that he didn't ... as you put it "target".
    A reasonable person would see that and understand that there was an underlying reason why some where selected while others were not.





    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    The way he was talking to the kids, and the language he was using toward the kids was inappropriate. Cops should be professional when working, and noone should talk to kids who aren't really doing anything wrong that way.
    1. Being unprofessional is not criminal.
    2. The language was far less worse than the music the Dj had been playing. Which puts the outrage over his use of language to the teens as nonsensical and depending on the person may even be hypocritical.
    3. Did you not pay attention to the video? The kids the language had been use on had done something wrong.





    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Living in Texas for over 50 years, I can tell you that it is one racist state, especially around Plano, McKinney or Vidor. This should be evident in seeing all the racist here who see nothing wrong with this cops behavior.

    All you do is speak from your own biased perspective.


    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    You mean black kids?
    Do you or do you not realize that it was a black guy calling them thugs?
    But I suppose since he lives in the community of McKinney you are going to call him a racist too.
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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    Listen to Chief's & Mayor's press conference where they're condemning him for violating department policies & practices, and further stating: "He was out-of-control from the moment he arrived on the scene"!

    - it's live on CNN right now.

    Unless you believe your judgement is superior to the Chief of Police?
    Apparently you do not understand he is playing politics and CYA.
    Hopefully the residents have him fired.


    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    And just to add a bit of fodder to those that would like to present police beatings & abusive force as a rare thing from a far minority, another incident comes rolling in on CNN usurping the breaking coverage of the pool party officer having that just resigned - I couldn't make this stuff up; I actually was confused for moment trying to keep track of these incidents.

    From YouTube, since it doesn't appear to be up on the CNN site:

    YouTube - 'Salinas California Cops Beat Mentally ill Man (VIDEO')

    Apparently, this is how we treat the mentally ill.

    Before deciding to defend the officers by using the ploy that the video is not showing the full context, you may keep in mind the Mayor of Salinas has just come out moments ago to explicitly state that there is no justification for the actions on the video, irregardless of it's limited context.

    So here we go again with another one of these supposed rare incidents ...
    Mentally ill people can be more dangerous than those who are not.
    This isn't fodder for anything.
    The video makes it clear that he is resisting even after being tasered.
    And the mayor does not dictate what is or isn't justified the investigation will determine that.

    Btw, real incidents as compared to false claims, are rare.





    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Don't you find it odd, that, given the fact that a large majority of people now have video cameras on them 24/7, that we are seeing all kinds of examples of police abuse?

    Hint: They have been doing this for years!!!! And now, we see it, and we are outraged because we refused to believe it before.
    Your comment is indicative of biased ignorance.

    1. What we are seeing is a lot of bogus and exaggerated claims made in comparison to real ones, confirming what was already believed by reasonable people.
    2. We have already seen that when Police implement body cameras they see a reduction in complaints made.

    Now you can try and say #2 is because police are acting more proffesional because they know they are being recorded (which would obviously be true of those who knew they had been acting wrongly ~ which is few and far between), yet that does not fit with the claims now being made that we can see are exaggerated and bogus. So #2 has an affect on the false complainers more than on police and therefore reduces the number of bs complaints made.
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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    1. Being unprofessional is not criminal.
    2. The language was far less worse than the music the Dj had been playing. Which puts the outrage over his use of language to the teens as nonsensical and depending on the person may even be hypocritical.
    3. Did you not pay attention to the video? The kids the language had been use on had done something wrong.
    1. I am not saying his language and behavior are criminal. Your employer can discipline you for being unprofessional whether you break any laws or not.
    2. A DJ at a party is expected to play music, and some of that music is going to have questionable lyrics. You are trying to compare apples to oranges. If I hear a child listening to music with profanity it is not a green light to verbally berate and curse at them.
    3. How on Earth do you know who was doing what? Talking back to a cop is not illegal.
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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    Bill Oreilly is now using this instance to initiate what he sees as, "A war on Police":

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    Talking Points Memo & Top Story

    The War on Cops
    Guests:Jonathan Gilliam & Keane Toney
    Racially charged shootings all over America have received enormous coverage on television and now it looks like the police are being hammered. The situation in McKinney, TX is just the latest example of police being scrutinized. Is American losing respect for the country's law enforcement? We'll talk to two former law officers and whether the McKinney officer was over the line and if Americans aren't giving cops a fair shake.


    The O'Reilly Factor - 'The War on Cops'

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    It appears to have been recorded before the officer's resignation & the department press conference.

    To his credit, he does state the officer was wrong to draw his weapon.
    Of course billy would conflate the war on bad cops with a war on cops! Is anybody surprised??
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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    That girl needs a few days in jail, and I hope they track down the two burly kids who ran up and were about to assault the office before he was able to get his weapon out.
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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    The only thing that was "out of control" at the scene were the "urban youths" who crashed the party. Sounds like the Chief is tossing his officer under the bus to appease the "Black Lives Matter" crowd.
    Wrong. Leave the racial element out of this and you still have unprofessional cops that need reprimand.
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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    The only thing that was "out of control" at the scene were the "urban youths" who crashed the party. Sounds like the Chief is tossing his officer under the bus to appease the "Black Lives Matter" crowd.
    The more I hear about this, the worse our news media looks. Seems it wasn't just some innocent pool party where the poor teens were assaulted by police.

    Looks more like This girl didn't have permission to have the party, they were on private property and refused to leave, she was charging money for people to be there and trying to promote another event, again for profit. There fights going on, they were threatening people at the pool, etc...

    But go ahead libs, side with them. After all, the police are evil. But, you'd be the first to call them if something like this happened on your property.
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