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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Some people will accept any excuse for police misbehavior.

    Luther is actually excusing the fact the police arrested a young teen girl because she went to the police and reported that she was the victim of an assault. He has no problem with the police arresting the victims of crimes because they were "involved" in a crime.
    I understand Sangha. A lot of the differences between liberals and conservatives make sense to me, that is, I understand why they exist. This one always frustrates me, I cannot for the life of me understand any American, liberty loving and constitutionally minded American citizens putting up with this crap, repeatedly. And would they all really be ok with that cop smacking their daughter around as we saw that cop do. I mean my blood was boiling when I saw that, to me when I viewed that I just wanted to duct tape that guy to a tree naked on a fire ant pile. And then, as you point out, these guys come in here and defend it. I just don't know what to think about that, really.
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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Not exactly. Just because she ended up in handcuffs doesn't mean that she was being held for anything other than a brief questioning about the fight.
    The media is describing her as "the only white person who was arrested"

    And there's no reason to arrest her and cuff her. She VOLUNTARILY went to the police.

    It would be SOP for the cops to cuff all the participants until a reasonable picture of what actually happened could be discerned.
    No, it's not SOP. You're making that up

    The law is clear that the cops can't arrest or cuff someone because they report that they're a victim of a crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Then by all means good riddance. Cops with a "flair for the dramatic" is just what we need to purge. Don't you guys realize that as a society we want cops to keep the peace, show up to a situation that's escalating towards violence or disaster, and defuse it, de-escalate it, calm those that are acting dramatic. Not show up doing cartwheels, yelling and screaming, f-bombing everybody with a "flair of drama" about them, pulling guns and acting the fool, which is what we've all witnessed in this video?
    What we are waiting for is our men & women in law-enforcement to once again act as our civil-servants, and to serve & protect us.

    NOT to treat us as if they're our superiors - they need to remember they work for us & serve at our pleasure.

    I have the greatest respect for our hard-working good officers, but I have the highest contempt for those that betray their badge - including those fellow officers that stand by as idle partners to their fellow officers betraying their oaths.

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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Strange. I figured that you would be among those who had a real appreciation for the dramatic.
    Maybe on stage Lutherf. I don't appreciate it in real life with guns and billy clubs, no! Then it's time for business, professional business, unlike the freak show that was captured in this video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    What we are waiting for is our men & women in law-enforcement to once again act as our civil-servants, and to serve & protect us.

    NOT to treat us as if they're our superiors - they need to remember they work for us & serve at our pleasure.

    I have the greatest respect for our hard-working good officers, but I have the highest contempt for those that betray their badge - including those fellow officers that stand by as idle partners to their fellow officers betraying their oaths.

    A little house-cleaning is never a bad thing ...
    I agree, especially with your first line. And, to try to be positive here, I think we need to keep the pressure on, there has been progress, it's small I know, but groups are forming, because there's more power in multiple voices, that are standing up to this abuse of power and excessive force, and as such I'm hopeful that we will see improvement. Btw, Lutherf admitted the cop was "heavy handed", he just can't bring himself to call for reprimand.
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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Police should not be allowed to harm anyone when they have "no idea" what's going on. They have an obligation to thoroughly determine the nature of a situation before taking action against anyone.

    What we need to do is stop making excuses for police, and instead hold them to a standard befitting their role and responsibility.



    "Being aggressive and threatening" is not against the law. Police have no business attacking or detaining anyone without evidence of an actual crime.



    Yeah, we don't serve their kind here!
    The crime was trespassing since pool rules are maximum two guest allowed unless you register a party ahead of time, which these folks did not do. Cop did his job.

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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    What we are waiting for is our men & women in law-enforcement to once again act as our civil-servants, and to serve & protect us.

    NOT to treat us as if they're our superiors - they need to remember they work for us & serve at our pleasure.

    I have the greatest respect for our hard-working good officers, but I have the highest contempt for those that betray their badge - including those fellow officers that stand by as idle partners to their fellow officers betraying their oaths.

    A little house-cleaning is never a bad thing ...
    Once again act as our civil servants..ahah.
    They've been doing this **** forever, you just have the "pleasure" of seeing it now.
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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    What we are waiting for is our men & women in law-enforcement to once again act as our civil-servants, and to serve & protect us.

    NOT to treat us as if they're our superiors - they need to remember they work for us & serve at our pleasure.

    I have the greatest respect for our hard-working good officers, but I have the highest contempt for those that betray their badge - including those fellow officers that stand by as idle partners to their fellow officers betraying their oaths.

    A little house-cleaning is never a bad thing ...

    What I find amazing is that people think that this some sort of new thing. It's not!!!! Police have been doing this forever. They are just now being caught on video.

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    Re: Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party

    And just to add a bit of fodder to those that would like to present police beatings & abusive force as a rare thing from a far minority, another incident comes rolling in on CNN usurping the breaking coverage of the pool party officer having that just resigned - I couldn't make this stuff up; I actually was confused for moment trying to keep track of these incidents.

    From YouTube, since it doesn't appear to be up on the CNN site:

    YouTube - 'Salinas California Cops Beat Mentally ill Man (VIDEO')

    Apparently, this is how we treat the mentally ill.

    Before deciding to defend the officers by using the ploy that the video is not showing the full context, you may keep in mind the Mayor of Salinas has just come out moments ago to explicitly state that there is no justification for the actions on the video, irregardless of it's limited context.

    So here we go again with another one of these supposed rare incidents ...
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