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    Re: American Pharoah wins Triple Crown

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    We waited 25 years for the first one of our lifetimes (Secretariat), and then had 2 more within 5 years. I'm kinda ashamed to admit it, but I wished Affirmed hadn't won his. He was a great horse, and Alydar did everything he could to try to stop it, but it almost lessened the impact of Slew's and to some degree, Secretariat's. There shouldn't be 3 TC winners in such close succession.

    37 years. I still can't believe it was 37 years.
    Very good points.

    But we do get to say: "We saw Secretariat take the Belmont Stakes by 31"!

    Does it get any better than that?

    And - how many horses get compared (seriously) to Man o' War?
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    Re: American Pharoah wins Triple Crown

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    Very good points.

    But we do get to say: "We saw Secretariat take the Belmont Stakes by 31"!

    Does it get any better than that?

    And - how many horses get compared (seriously) to Man o' War?
    I get to say it. I saw it. I was only 11 but remember it like it was yesterday. And you're right, it doesn't get any better than that. My kids have all seen the clip of his race many times, since they were little and YouTube made it possible. We went to see his birthplace in Virginia (the old Meadow Farm). His foaling barn is still there. We saw his grave at Claiborne Farm. My kids were raised on that horse. I saw him once, about a year before he died, at Claiborne. What a magnificent beast he was.

    Man O War, he was a special guy too. An American icon. Did you know his funeral was broadcasted on the radio and his body lay in state? Here's his funeral:



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    Re: American Pharoah wins Triple Crown

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    Re: American Pharoah wins Triple Crown

    'American Pharoah' owners drop by Morning Joe | MSNBC

    By the way, the Zayats were on Morning Joe this morning. Zayat said he was pointing him towards the Haskell (his "most probably next race at Monmouth"). It was a very fun interview. I love Joanne Zayat. And if I was 30 years younger and single, I'd fall in love with Justin who I think is just adorable. You can see the clip in the link above.
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    Re: American Pharoah wins Triple Crown

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    My point was that it seemed to me that you seemed to find that unusual or uncommon?
    Well, I was actually thinking about the last few "oh this horse almost has a triple crown" races I've seen.

    That kind of dominating lead wasn't really a thing in those races, if my memory is accurate.
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    Re: American Pharoah wins Triple Crown

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    It's being reported this morning that the owners and trainer intend to run him again this year, with his next race being one of the stakes races at Saratoga or the Haskell in Monmouth/New Jersey as his next race leading up to the Breeder's Cup Classic. The owners are based in New Jersey and favour going to the Haskell as supporting their home base. The owners are also quoted as saying the people who bought he stud rights have no say in whether he runs again or not - that tells me the only issue is whether American Pharoah remains sound and comes back training well in the late summer.
    Ultimately, it is the call of the owners, I wouldn't risk his bloodline on further races but can commend the owners for letting him compete still.
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    Re: American Pharoah wins Triple Crown

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Laminitis? That's what did in Secretariat.
    That's it exactly. Mostly comes from a fracture in the leg, almost unstoppable.
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    Re: American Pharoah wins Triple Crown

    I saw Secretariat at Saratoga. He lost to a a horse called Onion. But he was easily the greatest horse I ever saw. The greatest of all time. Very, very few people will argue that point. He had record times in all 3 Triple Crown races. In the Belmont I think not only was his time the fastest Belmont stakes time ever but it is the world's record for any 1 1/2 race.

    Affirmed was maybe the most fun to watch. Every race he was in was close and an adventure. He got beat at Saratoga too. I saw that too. Maybe it's me. lol

    I don't think Pharoah is an all time great, BUT I will give him credit for having the 2nd fastest Belmont time(obviously 2nd to Secretariat's time). The Belmont is a beast of a race, any horse that can run it in the time Pharoah did deserves some accolades.
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    Re: American Pharoah wins Triple Crown

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    That's it exactly. Mostly comes from a fracture in the leg, almost unstoppable.
    Yup and it comes from any injury to the legs, really. When they aren't getting the blood flow into their legs and hooves, laminitis sets in. While it isn't fatal in itself, the pain is so unbearable that it usually results in euthanasia. Very sad.
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    Re: American Pharoah wins Triple Crown

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    I saw Secretariat at Saratoga. He lost to a a horse called Onion. But he was easily the greatest horse I ever saw. The greatest of all time. Very, very few people will argue that point. He had record times in all 3 Triple Crown races. In the Belmont I think not only was his time the fastest Belmont stakes time ever but it is the world's record for any 1 1/2 race.

    Affirmed was maybe the most fun to watch. Every race he was in was close and an adventure. He got beat at Saratoga too. I saw that too. Maybe it's me. lol

    I don't think Pharoah is an all time great, BUT I will give him credit for having the 2nd fastest Belmont time(obviously 2nd to Secretariat's time). The Belmont is a beast of a race, any horse that can run it in the time Pharoah did deserves some accolades.
    That's why they call Saratoga the "Graveyard of Champions". And beating him in that race was about all Onion did in his career.

    AP ran the second fastest Belmont of any Triple Crown winner, not the second fastest in history. He does hold the record for the fastest quarter mile in the Belmont (besting Secretariat's time). AP's Belmont was the sixth fastest in history. Easy Goer ran the second fastest, followed by A.P. Indy (whose Belmont was almost as exciting as Secretariat's).
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