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    Re: American Pharoah wins Triple Crown

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I didn't mean to compare American Pharoah to Secretariat - no horse, with the exception of Northern Dancer, comes close - I say Northern Dancer because he would have been a triple crown winner had he not come back home to Canada to run in our triple crown races after winning the Kentucky Derby and the Preakness - "The Dancer" is also the sire of champions and every great racehorse in the last half-century has Dancer blood. I was only trying to compare the way AP opened up in the stretch leaving no doubt. Most of the Belmonts in recent memory have had very close endings.
    Actually, AP bested Secretariat's final quarter of 25 by running in 24.32 seconds.
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    Re: American Pharoah wins Triple Crown

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    One of the greatest moments in sports, that's for sure. Also, one of the greatest lines in sports, too:

    "He's moving like a tremendous machine!" - Chic Anderson

    BTW, it was also nice seeing Penny Chenery there yesterday. She still going strong at 92 years of age!
    I fully agree. It was nice to see that Ms. Chenery is still doing well. She was a classy owner throughout Secretariat's racing career and life.

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    Re: American Pharoah wins Triple Crown

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    I fully agree. It was nice to see that Ms. Chenery is still doing well. She was a classy owner throughout Secretariat's racing career and life.
    Yes, classy indeed. About 20 years ago, a friend of mine was circling a block trying to find a parking space downtown Saratoga. All of a sudden, this woman walk towards his car and says that she is leaving her parking space and she will wait for him to get close so he could have her spot. Not this is a very kind gesture from anyone--that's for sure--but when it's Penny Chenery, it's extra special.
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    Re: American Pharoah wins Triple Crown

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    He is a super athlete to be sure but he won't be racing any more. He will now begin a new career of providing millions to his owner through stud fees.
    I'm not so sure - I expect he'll run in the Breeder's Cup Classic in the fall, just to prove he can beat older horses too. He might retire after that - there's no doubt he'll be making millions for his owners for years to come from breeding fees.
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    Re: American Pharoah wins Triple Crown

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Actually, AP bested Secretariat's final quarter of 25 by running in 24.32 seconds.
    True, but his overall time was seconds behind - Secretariat went the first six furlongs in 1:09 and change which is unheard of in such a long race. He probably eased up although it looked like he was going faster.
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    Re: American Pharoah wins Triple Crown

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm not so sure - I expect he'll run in the Breeder's Cup Classic in the fall, just to prove he can beat older horses too. He might retire after that - there's no doubt he'll be making millions for his owners for years to come from breeding fees.
    It's too risky to subject a horse to racing after he has reached the pinnacle. He could have an injury that required him to be put down. Horse racing is a business, not just a sport.

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    Re: American Pharoah wins Triple Crown

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    It's too risky to subject a horse to racing after he has reached the pinnacle. He could have an injury that required him to be put down. Horse racing is a business, not just a sport.
    Unless the accident somehow effected his sperm production they wouldn't put him down.
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    Re: American Pharoah wins Triple Crown

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm not so sure - I expect he'll run in the Breeder's Cup Classic in the fall, just to prove he can beat older horses too. He might retire after that - there's no doubt he'll be making millions for his owners for years to come from breeding fees.
    I don't believe his owner has made decision as to whether or not he'll race again. He might race a few more times, though probably not beyond this year. Reportedly, his breeding rights have been sold for a price that now exceeds $20 million given his Triple Crown win and the bonus that was tied to such an outcome, so there might be some added pressure for his retirement.

    Whether or not he races again, he's distinguished himself as among the greatest horses that have ever lived. In recent years, critics have argued for changes in the Triple Crown format, distance, rules (e.g., barring horses that have not run in the Kentucky Derby or Preakness), etc. What those critics missed is that the series in its traditional format has become special, because only the greatest horses win it. I doubt it would have such appeal if Triple Crown victories became frequent events due to some of the absurd, IMO, changes suggested.

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    Re: American Pharoah wins Triple Crown

    The jockey said he knew it was won after the first turn. He said the horse then decided to run and that means the jockey does little to coax the horse. Some like to run out front and some like to bust it open at the end. The strategy was to run in front when the gate dropped and the horse simply took it from there. A fabulous thing to witness but to be there and to be a thrill of a lifetime. He is now a hundred million dollar baby. He will race again and the attendance will be enormous wherever he runs.

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    Re: American Pharoah wins Triple Crown

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    It's too risky to subject a horse to racing after he has reached the pinnacle. He could have an injury that required him to be put down. Horse racing is a business, not just a sport.
    Secretariat raced his 4 year old season. Last year's Kentucky Derby and Preakness winner, California Chrome, ran in the Breeder's Cup Classic and also has raced this year. Winning the Breeder's Cup Classic is worth $3 million plus - that's a lot of stud fees. Unless we find out American Pharoah has some kind of health issue, I'm sure he'll run again.
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