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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Do I think it is a crime that this father forgot about his toddler strapped in a car seat in the back of his car? Yes.

    Did he purposely plan to leave his child in the backseat of a sweltering car for nine hours till he met his death? No. But neither was the one who struck another vehicle in an accident that took another's life. Negligence, wrongdoing that results in the harm of another is criminal.

    It sound like the father that forgot he had a toddler in the backseat of his vehicle did not have his priorities in order. His main concern from the time he strapped the kid into the car seat would be to realize he had precious cargo on board and his first point of concern should be getting the child transported to a safe location before anything else take precedent for the day.

    How in the Hell do you forget you have a child strapped in a car seat? How???????
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    Fatal Distraction: Forgetting a Child in the Backseat of a Car Is a Horrifying Mistake. Is It a Crime? - The Washington Post

    Diamond is the memory expert with a lousy memory, the one who recently realized, while driving to the mall, that his infant granddaughter was asleep in the back of the car. He remembered only because his wife, sitting beside him, mentioned the baby. He understands what could have happened had he been alone with the child. Almost worse, he understands exactly why.

    The human brain, he says, is a magnificent but jury-rigged device in which newer and more sophisticated structures sit atop a junk heap of prototype brains still used by lower species. At the top of the device are the smartest and most nimble parts: the prefrontal cortex, which thinks and analyzes, and the hippocampus, which makes and holds on to our immediate memories. At the bottom is the basal ganglia, nearly identical to the brains of lizards, controlling voluntary but barely conscious actions.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    No offense to any parent that has forgotten their child somewhere but if you have you have ****ing problems... how one could forget they have their child in the car is absolutely idiotic.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    That psychobabble bull**** excuse for forgetting a child is pathetic...
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    You make the same drive to work every day, over and over and over, and normally you are not the one that drops off your child at daycare. Something different comes up in the family schedule and you take you child in to daycare instead of mom. Your child falls asleep within five minutes of leaving the house. During the drive you start thinking about what you have to accomplish at work that day. You drive to work and forget your silent, sleeping, rear-facing child is in the back seat. You get out of the car and enter your workplace.

    That's how.
    That is ridiculous... You are probably driving to day care or a sitters house instead of work, different route. You are probably leaving at a different time as well... if it is not your normal drive into work then you remember why because it is an abnormal morning commute... not routine.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    That psychobabble bull**** excuse for forgetting a child is pathetic...
    Odd how the brain works.
    Yeah, no qualifications what so ever. The gall of the man.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    I don't know what that has to do with anything.
    Because it means that it was not some normal morning as you made it sound where it is easy to just slip into a normal routine...
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Not very. It doesn't take all that much to go on autopilot and forget if dropping the kid off before work is not part of one's daily routine. Who strapped the kid in makes little difference.
    I can only assume that you are not a parent because this sounds utterly naive.

    I'm not disputing how horrifying of a mistake it is. How simple of a mistake it is to make is what makes it all the more horrifying, in my opinion. All I'm disputing with you is that you seem to think it must require some criminal degree of neglectfulness or self-centeredness to make. Almost any ordinary parent could make this mistake, including otherwise great parents. That's what makes it so scary.
    How simple of a mistake? Wrong. If it was that simple of a mistake we would have ten thousand dead babies a year and no, not almost any ordinary parent could make that mistake either...

    Quit doing what? Having children? Driving with them anywhere? Working?
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    This should be a murder charge, or at the very least, manslaughter. There is no excuse for 'forgetting' a child - or a pet - in a car. None, zilch, zip, nada.
    Just yesterday I went to a store and there were two kids in a car with the windows rolled up. 6 and 8 years old, or so. Iwent in and told the lady working there (Home Depot kind of place) and she says, well, it isn't a hot day so maybe if the car is there in 30 minutes or so I will make a page to the customers" or something really close to that. I looked at her shocked and asked if she ever sat in a car with windows rolled up for 30 minutes and she looked dumb and I said that kids bady tempuratures rise and fall faster than adults and I will be checking the car in a couple of minutes myself. I went and looked a some hooks and went to look at the car after about 2 more minutes and would have gone out but the car was gone. The store lady threw my off my game because in the past I have always gone and stood next to the car and waited for the parent ready to call, and have called, the police after a little bit... windows were UP! Unbelievable.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Odd how the brain works.
    Yeah, no qualifications what so ever. The gall of the man.
    http://psychology.usf.edu/faculty/data/ddiamond_cv.pdf
    I could care less what his qualifications are... a parent in a dead sleep will wake at the slightest odd sound from a baby. Parents brains are wired for their baby.

    Again, that psychobabble bull**** excuse for forgetting a child is pathetic...
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I am glad to know you are okay Vesper. I am the same way when it comes to hospitals. Although, I do a bit more insisting. especially with Civilian Hospitals. I can get away with it more there. Not at the VA.
    You can't rest in those places unless they totally knock you out or you are so close to death you could care less. They kept offering stuff for pain but I declined. I've been managing pain with Advil. On second thought I probably should have accepted the drugs. Last night I slept really well. There isn't much difference in my condition but I have strict orders to all the doctor if their are any changes. The doc at the hospital gave me his card with his personal number to call if things get worse. I have a specialist I need to get in contact on Monday. I was having an anxiety attack over the fact that my daughter is having major surgery tomorrow and I can't be there for her. Hubby will be going. Docs gave me a prescription for the anxiety, it seems to be working.

    I didn't want Hubby to call anyone to let them know I was in the hospital. Especially the kids. One is facing major surgery, the other was on vacation with his family. I didn't think it was necessary for them to know at this time. Well son is home from vacation, and daughter called yesterday and now they know and are upset with me for not telling them. **** you can't win for losing. They made me promise I would never ever do that again........we shall see. I have some great kids, a son-in-law I dropped the "in -law a long time ago and that goes for my daughter "in-law". To hell with the in-law part they are my kids. I have a wonderful spouse, loving brother and a couple of old aunties who pray for me daily along with a couple of true friends. I didn't want anyone to know and all are upset that I didn't tell them. Lesson learned.

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