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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Do I think it is a crime that this father forgot about his toddler strapped in a car seat in the back of his car? Yes.

    Did he purposely plan to leave his child in the backseat of a sweltering car for nine hours till he met his death? No. But neither was the one who struck another vehicle in an accident that took another's life. Negligence, wrongdoing that results in the harm of another is criminal.

    It sound like the father that forgot he had a toddler in the backseat of his vehicle did not have his priorities in order. His main concern from the time he strapped the kid into the car seat would be to realize he had precious cargo on board and his first point of concern should be getting the child transported to a safe location before anything else take precedent for the day.

    How in the Hell do you forget you have a child strapped in a car seat? How???????
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Do I think it is a crime that this father forgot about his toddler strapped in a car seat in the back of his car? Yes.

    Did he purposely plan to leave his child in the backseat of a sweltering car for nine hours till he met his death? No. But neither was the one who struck another vehicle in an accident that took another's life. Negligence, wrongdoing that results in the harm of another is criminal.

    It sound like the father that forgot he had a toddler in the backseat of his vehicle did not have his priorities in order. His main concern from the time he strapped the kid into the car seat would be to realize he had precious cargo on board and his first point of concern should be getting the child transported to a safe location before anything else take precedent for the day.

    How in the Hell do you forget you have a child strapped in a car seat? How???????
    You make the same drive to work every day, over and over and over, and normally you are not the one that drops off your child at daycare. Something different comes up in the family schedule and you take you child in to daycare instead of mom. Your child falls asleep within five minutes of leaving the house. During the drive you start thinking about what you have to accomplish at work that day. You drive to work and forget your silent, sleeping, rear-facing child is in the back seat. You get out of the car and enter your workplace.

    That's how.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    you know, i really doubt that anyone does this even slightly on purpose. we're all so ****ing busy that we get scatterbrained and **** up. it just makes me sick, because i know that there probably won't be a day between now and death that the parent won't think about this and agonize over it. you want to know what hell is like? get exhausted, overworked, and scatterbrained, and **** up like that. it's just a ****ing awful tragedy when this happens, and i hate reading about it.
    Perhaps fewer should have kids, or at least watch fewer commercials so their attention span doesn't become so problematic

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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I don't think it's up to any of us to judge, Scrabs. Sure, the parents were absent minded and there is little excuse for it, but the older I get the more I feel like the memory is punishment enough.

    Secondly, we live in a country where people get away with sentencing their children to death with nonsense like 'alternative medicine' and 'prayer healing'. Those people don't get consistently sent to prison for their misguided actions, why should somebody who made a mistake?

    At least let's have some national consistency on the issue. If a parent's actions led to the death of the child, it should be punished with the same standard. Not the mismatched collage of laws and cases that we have on the matter.
    Actually "christian science" is no longer accepted as a defense, that i'm aware of, and someone who causes a miscarriage (for instance, hitting a pregnant woman, if you don't know she's pregnant) will be charged with murder. I find *that* inconsistent, since abortion is legal. But to then not charge a parent who thru negligence kills their living child would be even more inconsistent

    I mean i get what you're saying. I don't think it's a deterrent when it's accidental, and if we really cared about infant safety, we wouldn't allow them in cars to begin with.

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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    You make the same drive to work every day, over and over and over, and normally you are not the one that drops off your child at daycare. Something different comes up in the family schedule and you take you child in to daycare instead of mom. Your child falls asleep within five minutes of leaving the house. During the drive you start thinking about what you have to accomplish at work that day. You drive to work and forget your silent, sleeping, rear-facing child is in the back seat. You get out of the car and enter your workplace.

    That's how.
    That sounds all well and good EXCEPT the dad was the one who strapped the child into the car seat before pulling out of the driveway. That doesn't jive. No matter what transpired on the way to work, the father was well aware he strapped that child into his car seat before even starting his car.

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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    That sounds all well and good EXCEPT the dad was the one who strapped the child into the car seat before pulling out of the driveway. That doesn't jive.
    I don't know what that has to do with anything.

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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    I don't know what that has to do with anything.
    It has everything to do with what the father was aware of before pulling out of his driveway with the kid he strapped into the car seat behind him.

    How the heck after going through the motions of strapping in a child into a car seat can you forget you have a child in the backseat 10 to even 30 minutes later depending how long it takes to get to daycare? How engulfed in his thoughts void of those of his own child must have he have been to leave him in the car not noticing while he sought his own personal agenda. So much so, he didn't even notice the child in the back. Sorry, that's plain and simple negligence and he will have to live with it for the rest of his life. Self can be really destructive.

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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    how many times do babies have to die in cars before people just quit doing it? i remember this happening over and over again for past decade.

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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    It has everything to do with what the father was aware of before pulling out of his driveway with the kid he strapped into the car seat behind him.

    How the heck after going through the motions of strapping in a child into a car seat can you forget you have a child in the backseat 10 to even 30 minutes later depending how long it takes to get to daycare? How engulfed in his thoughts void of those of his own child must have he have been...
    Not very. It doesn't take all that much to go on autopilot and forget if dropping the kid off before work is not part of one's daily routine. Who strapped the kid in makes little difference.

    I'm not disputing how horrifying of a mistake it is. How simple of a mistake it is to make is what makes it all the more horrifying, in my opinion. All I'm disputing with you is that you seem to think it must require some criminal degree of neglectfulness or self-centeredness to make. Almost any ordinary parent could make this mistake, including otherwise great parents. That's what makes it so scary.

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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    how many times do babies have to die in cars before people just quit doing it?
    Quit doing what? Having children? Driving with them anywhere? Working?

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