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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    This sounds like negligent homicide to me.

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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    700 of the poor little ones in the last 20 years. Every time I hear this I can't get the thought out of my head of the suffering slowly before succumbing.
    I have said it before; IMO, most people should not have children (obviously this is an extreme case).

    Properly and lovingly raising a sentient human being requires natural skills and talents that I simply do not believe most people possess in sufficient quantities.

    I truly believe that by far the number one problem in the world is too many lousy parents having children.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Midney View Post
    Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school
    In case it is absolutely clear:
    It's not the cars that killed these children, it's the parents and their absent mindedness.
    The article gives a couple other examples of children dying in hot cars, and it seems that in all those cases, no one intended on leaving their children in the cars, thinking it was safe. Rather, the parents simply forgot their children were in the car. Parents must take care of their child! MUST.
    This should be a murder charge, or at the very least, manslaughter. There is no excuse for 'forgetting' a child - or a pet - in a car. None, zilch, zip, nada.

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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Here is a WaPo article that discusses this issue, under which circumstances parents are likely to be charged, and brain theories about the parents' lapses in memory: Fatal Distraction: Forgetting a Child in the Backseat of a Car Is a Horrifying Mistake. Is It a Crime? - The Washington Post

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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    This should be a murder charge, or at the very least, manslaughter. There is no excuse for 'forgetting' a child - or a pet - in a car. None, zilch, zip, nada.
    I don't think it's up to any of us to judge, Scrabs. Sure, the parents were absent minded and there is little excuse for it, but the older I get the more I feel like the memory is punishment enough.

    Secondly, we live in a country where people get away with sentencing their children to death with nonsense like 'alternative medicine' and 'prayer healing'. Those people don't get consistently sent to prison for their misguided actions, why should somebody who made a mistake?

    At least let's have some national consistency on the issue. If a parent's actions led to the death of the child, it should be punished with the same standard. Not the mismatched collage of laws and cases that we have on the matter.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    True, but I just can't see how the safest child seat designed for the front will ever be as safe as the safest child seat designed for the back. The closer you get to the front of the vehicle and that noncollapsible engine block the lower your odds are in a head on collision. No matter the design the safest spot, statistically speaking, will be the rear center seat, followed by a rear passenger seat. I could be wrong.
    Well there are too many infants dying in the back seat, and I never read about any dying from an accident in the front seat in a proper infant seat the entire time I had children who rode in the front seat in child/infant seats which spanned about 8 years between my two children. And I NEVER heard about a child being left in the car to die in the heat, not one. Since the move of seats to the back, there are 4 or 5 a year of the latter.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Scatterbrained? What a load of crap. Lousy parents is more like it.
    There's probably a little bit of self involvement and "should never have been a parent to begin with''-ness involved, by I agree with Helix....it's not intentional.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Midney View Post
    Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school
    In case it is absolutely clear:
    It's not the cars that killed these children, it's the parents and their absent mindedness.
    The article gives a couple other examples of children dying in hot cars, and it seems that in all those cases, no one intended on leaving their children in the cars, thinking it was safe. Rather, the parents simply forgot their children were in the car. Parents must take care of their child! MUST.
    We should pass a law to make it illegal to leave your children inside your car. A "Child alone in car" Ban. That will surely fix this.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Scatterbrained? What a load of crap. Lousy parents is more like it.

    Great parents put their children above all else and NEVER forget them in a car unattended...for ANY length of time. My mother never left me in a car (or any of my siblings). I lived with a woman who had children and she would never forget her children, no matter how busy she was. Never. Heck, I never forgot about them and they were not even my children.

    The only people who forget about their children left unattended in a car are lousy parents...period.

    And level of 'busyness' is no excuse whatsoever. Your children - especially if they are pre-school - should always be the most important thing in your lives and nothing should be able to make you 'scatterbrained' about them. Not your job, your friends, your health...nothing.
    Spot on.



    Look, I don't want to sound self righteous, but I'm going to anyway. If you don't want to read a self righteous rant, stop right now.

    I have a 6 year old, and a 3 year. I work 60+ hours per week, as does my wife. My 3 year old is in pre school for special ed, hearing difficulties. My 6 year old is in kindergarten. She also does soccer. I have more going on in my life than I ever have before. As evidenced by the frequency and multitude of my posts here. And yet, with all of that, I have never once, not even CLOSE, come to the point of forgetting that my kids are in the car with me. Ever. Not once come close to forgetting they are in the car when I leave the car. Now, I'm not gonna say these parents do this crap on PURPOSE. But maybe...leave the cellphone home every now and then. Unplug. Remove the distractions.


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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Well there are too many infants dying in the back seat, and I never read about any dying from an accident in the front seat in a proper infant seat the entire time I had children who rode in the front seat in child/infant seats which spanned about 8 years between my two children. And I NEVER heard about a child being left in the car to die in the heat, not one. Since the move of seats to the back, there are 4 or 5 a year of the latter.
    I think a better idea might be to start having cars equipped with sensors of some sort that tell you when a child is strapped into the car/car seat before you get out. Some sort of alarm, like the alert telling you your seat belt isn't buckled or the door isn't closed or your lights are still on.

    And you are right, they didn't get left in the car nearly as often when so many laws about where children safety seats should be placed or in what direction they had to be in existed, but that doesn't mean those laws aren't worth it too.
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