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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Nope, not in a million years can I see any justification to this. Not at all. I have 3 kids and there was never a moment that I forgot about their existence. You would have to believe that her daughter never crossed her mind even one time in that 8 hour period. Impossible. If I ever did forget my kids in their car seats- which I wouldn't - for the love of ****ing god, at some point during my day I would have thought of them, and then realized that I didn't remember taking them to daycare or their nannies, and that would have jolted me to the point I would run out and see where they were.

    This stupid bitch. I hope this haunts her until the day she dies. I'm sorry for not being sympathetic, but as a mother, to have this happen is as likely as finding Elvis Presley standing in my closet.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Nope, not in a million years can I see any justification to this. Not at all. I have 3 kids and there was never a moment that I forgot about their existence. You would have to believe that her daughter never crossed her mind even one time in that 8 hour period. Impossible. If I ever did forget my kids in their car seats- which I wouldn't - for the love of ****ing god, at some point during my day I would have thought of them, and then realized that I didn't remember taking them to daycare or their nannies, and that would have jolted me to the point I would run out and see where they were.

    This stupid bitch. I hope this haunts her until the day she dies. I'm sorry for not being sympathetic, but as a mother, to have this happen is as likely as finding Elvis Presley standing in my closet.
    She could have believed that she dropped off her kid wherever the kid was supposed to be. Some people have issues remembering things and even remember things wrong. They think they did something one day because they did it the day before. Or they don't remember they were supposed to do something different this day than they normally do. Not everyone's memories work the same.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    Yeah, what would be the point in charging unless it was intentional? Punishment? They have already received the worst punishment imaginable. Deterance? If the threat of killing one's child didn't stop the accident why would the threat of jail time?
    You've stated the prosecution quandary well.

    It would seem the law would demand it - an act of negligent homicide was committed.

    And from my ethical POV, there should be at least some lightly moderate price to pay in instances of simply negligence, with a higher price to pay if there's contributory circumstances (drugs, alcohol, etc.).

    But you stated well, there's lack of accomplishment if the parents are charged.

    I expect charges could be prepared & justified as 'the State acting on behalf of the victim', but that may be nebulous as well. And, would the victim want their parents prosecuted?

    It's a difficult situation ...
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    She could have believed that she dropped off her kid wherever the kid was supposed to be. Some people have issues remembering things and even remember things wrong. They think they did something one day because they did it the day before. Or they don't remember they were supposed to do something different this day than they normally do. Not everyone's memories work the same.
    Fascinating. Or maybe she fell asleep in class. Or maybe she was sexting her boyfriend. Or maybe she took too many Tylenols.

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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Seems an easy fix might be to just tie something to your inside door handle so when you open the door, it serves as a reminder.
    My favorite fix was not over loading my schedule and also leaving two windows down when ever I left my car until my children could easily get out on their own.

    Though I never had to depend on my "fail safe", I never had anything taken from my car either. Then again, my cars are not really the sort to that attracts alot of thieves.

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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Scatterbrained? What a load of crap. Lousy parents is more like it.

    Great parents put their children above all else and NEVER forget them in a car unattended...for ANY length of time. My mother never left me in a car (or any of my siblings). I lived with a woman who had children and she would never forget her children, no matter how busy she was. Never. Heck, I never forgot about them and they were not even my children.

    The only people who forget about their children left unattended in a car are lousy parents...period.

    And level of 'busyness' is no excuse whatsoever. Your children - especially if they are pre-school - should always be the most important thing in your lives and nothing should be able to make you 'scatterbrained' about them. Not your job, your friends, your health...nothing.
    At one point I had 3 kids under the age of 5, a full time job, and a husband who travelled 20 weeks of the year. I was absolutely a mess every day. The oldest 2 went to a nanny, the youngest to a day care by my office. I could barely keep my eyes open and getting 3 little ones ready for the day, plus myself, plus taking care of the dogs before we left, driving through snow and rain, and i never once forgot them, or their diaper bags, or their food, or their bottles, or anything else.

    Anyone who forgets their child in a car is not scatterbrained. They are selfish.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    At one point I had 3 kids under the age of 5, a full time job, and a husband who travelled 20 weeks of the year. I was absolutely a mess every day. The oldest 2 went to a nanny, the youngest to a day care by my office. I could barely keep my eyes open and getting 3 little ones ready for the day, plus myself, plus taking care of the dogs before we left, driving through snow and rain, and i never once forgot them, or their diaper bags, or their food, or their bottles, or anything else.

    Anyone who forgets their child in a car is not scatterbrained. They are selfish.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    Yeah, what would be the point in charging unless it was intentional? Punishment? They have already received the worst punishment imaginable. Deterance? If the threat of killing one's child didn't stop the accident why would the threat of jail time?
    Yes, living with an unimaginable punishment.

    But please don't let that stop anybody from condemning them and congratulating themselves.

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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    She could have believed that she dropped off her kid wherever the kid was supposed to be. Some people have issues remembering things and even remember things wrong. They think they did something one day because they did it the day before. Or they don't remember they were supposed to do something different this day than they normally do. Not everyone's memories work the same.
    Then a) if she realized that her memory stinks before she had children then she should not have had children.
    And b) if she realized this after she had children then she should have made sure she was NEVER alone with them for any appreciable length of time.

    Besides, IMO, you would have to be galactically stupid to forget for one minute that your child is alone in a car...let alone on a hot day. Let alone long enough for the poor little one to die.

    This woman is either staggeringly stupid or she did not love her child unconditionally or both.

    I prey this stupid and/or selfish bitch never has a child again and I do not even begin to care how much suffering she is going through because of the death of her child.

    And if they throw this cow into jail for a few years for criminal negligence causing death (or any charge that would stick)...that would be fine with me.

    This is a child she neglected to death...not a hamster.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Then a) if she realized that her memory stinks before she had children then she should not have had children.

    And b) if she realized this after she had children then she should have made sure she was NEVER alone with them for any appreciable length of time.

    Besides, IMO, you would have to be galactically stupid to forget for one minute that your child is alone in a car...let alone on a hot day. Let alone long enough for the poor little one to die.

    This woman is either staggeringly stupid or she did not love her child unconditionally or both.

    I prey this stupid and/or selfish bitch never has a child again and I do not even begin to care how much suffering she is going through because of the death of her child.
    700 of the poor little ones in the last 20 years. Every time I hear this I can't get the thought out of my head of the suffering slowly before succumbing.
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