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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Yes, I know. To you, someone who forgets to pick up her child by 2 pm at a birthday party is no different than someone who lets her child roast to death in her car for 8 hours. You don't have to keep repeating your insane justifications.
    This wasn't a birthday party that the child was dropped off at, but a party that the entire family was at, both parents included.

    Parents Learn Daughter Was Left In Chuck E. Cheese By Watching News

    And another parent who forgot her child, one of ten children, at Chuck E Cheese.

    In 911 Call, Texas Mother Calmly Reported, "I Think I Left My Child At Chuck E. Cheese Last Night." | The Smoking Gun

    "It wasn’t until Friday at about 8 AM--nine hours after she departed Chuck E. Cheese--that the mother called 911 to report that her daughter was missing."
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    This wasn't a birthday party that the child was dropped off at, but a party that the entire family was at, both parents included.

    Parents Learn Daughter Was Left In Chuck E. Cheese By Watching News

    And another parent who forgot her child, one of ten children, at Chuck E Cheese.

    In 911 Call, Texas Mother Calmly Reported, "I Think I Left My Child At Chuck E. Cheese Last Night." | The Smoking Gun

    "It wasn’t until Friday at about 8 AM--nine hours after she departed Chuck E. Cheese--that the mother called 911 to report that her daughter was missing."
    Oh wow! Then I guess it IS perfectly normal to allow your child to roast in your car. Silly me.

    The good news is with experts like you saying it's perfectly normal, any parents who want to get rid of their kids can do it, and just say "Well, there's nothing odd about me forgetting my kid for 8 hours! We're all wired that way!".

    It's a shame for Susan Smith that she didn't have access to your posts and "there's nothing wrong with it!" posts before she made her kids drown in the car. All she had to do was leave them in those car seats for 8 hours cooking in the SC sun and she would have been off the hook.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Oh wow! Then I guess it IS perfectly normal to allow your child to roast in your car. Silly me.

    The good news is with experts like you saying it's perfectly normal, any parents who want to get rid of their kids can do it, and just say "Well, there's nothing odd about me forgetting my kid for 8 hours! We're all wired that way!".

    It's a shame for Susan Smith that she didn't have access to your posts and "there's nothing wrong with it!" posts before she made her kids drown in the car. All she had to do was leave them in those car seats for 8 hours cooking in the SC sun and she would have been off the hook.
    Seriously why are you insisting on making such over-the-top arguments that don't follow what I have been saying at all?

    I'm probably one of the top people saying the guy in Georgia who there is plenty of evidence to suggest that he actually did leave his son in the car on purpose should be tried (and he has been charged with murder) because of his apparent (even if not completely proven, yet) intent to purposely cause the death of his child that way. The difference is intent. Intentionally leaving your child in the car, especially to kill them, is not something that we should refuse to punish. Even if there are other circumstances, such as drugs or alcohol involved, that led to the child being "forgotten", then that should result in charges. But there was no intent to harm the child by many of these parents, nor were they doing anything illegal or that they should have known better when it comes to being responsible for a child.

    We don't charge vehicular homicide in every incident where someone dies in a car accident. Generally, that charge is reserved for those who are doing something else wrong, violating some other law, such as speeding or driving under the influence.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Seriously why are you insisting on making such over-the-top arguments that don't follow what I have been saying at all?

    I'm probably one of the top people saying the guy in Georgia who there is plenty of evidence to suggest that he actually did leave his son in the car on purpose should be tried (and he has been charged with murder) because of his apparent (even if not completely proven, yet) intent to purposely cause the death of his child that way. The difference is intent. Intentionally leaving your child in the car, especially to kill them, is not something that we should refuse to punish. Even if there are other circumstances, such as drugs or alcohol involved, that led to the child being "forgotten", then that should result in charges. But there was no intent to harm the child by many of these parents, nor were they doing anything illegal or that they should have known better when it comes to being responsible for a child.

    We don't charge vehicular homicide in every incident where someone dies in a car accident. Generally, that charge is reserved for those who are doing something else wrong, violating some other law, such as speeding or driving under the influence.
    Just stop. I can't read any more of your drivel about how it's understandable and explainable for parents to allow their children to bake in cars.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Just stop. I can't read any more of your drivel about how it's understandable and explainable for parents to allow their children to bake in cars.
    A fact they'll have to live with for the rest of their life. And all the outrage and punishment in the world won't bring the children back, nor is it truly likely to prevent more deaths.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    A fact they'll have to live with for the rest of their life. And all the outrage and punishment in the world won't bring the children back, nor is it truly likely to prevent more deaths.
    If i murder someone and feel really bad should I not be punished? Even if punishing me won't prevent other deaths or bring my victims back? Why have a legal system at all?
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    If i murder someone and feel really bad should I not be punished? Even if punishing me won't prevent other deaths or bring my victims back? Why have a legal system at all?
    Do you believe the child would feel that punishing their parent for a mistake would be some form of justice?

    Murder indicates intent to kill. There is still intent there.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    The mother who left her 5 year old at Chuck E Cheese's was 32 and had 10 children. She had her first child at 17 years old.

    This is what's being used as an example of how easy and understandable it is to let your toddler roast to death in her car seat while you're inside teaching school.

    ANOTHER child left behind at Chuck E Cheese...parents notice the next morning | Daily Mail Online

    Unbelievable.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Do you believe the child would feel that punishing their parent for a mistake would be some form of justice?

    Murder indicates intent to kill. There is still intent there.
    There are varying degrees of murder. If I am speeding and hit a child, it is still murder. If i am recklessly firing a gun and kill someone it is still murder. Regardless of my intent. My irresponsible and negligent actions caused the death of another person. that is murder.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    This wasn't a birthday party that the child was dropped off at, but a party that the entire family was at, both parents included.

    Parents Learn Daughter Was Left In Chuck E. Cheese By Watching News

    And another parent who forgot her child, one of ten children, at Chuck E Cheese.

    In 911 Call, Texas Mother Calmly Reported, "I Think I Left My Child At Chuck E. Cheese Last Night." | The Smoking Gun

    "It wasn’t until Friday at about 8 AM--nine hours after she departed Chuck E. Cheese--that the mother called 911 to report that her daughter was missing."
    So your argument is that since other parents are ****ty parents it makes it ok to kill kids?

    If you can go home, and have dinner, and put your kids to bed and not realize you are missing one, all of this womans kids should be taken from her before she kills them.
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