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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    You're right, but vehicular homicide usually isn't intentional or committed with malice, either. Yet those people pay a penalty for their crimes.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    If your actions and negligence cause children to die, it is still a crime in most cases. Should be all. Intent or malice should play a factor in determining severity of sentence, but lack of intent does not exclude you from being responsible for your actions. In this case, this woman knowingly strapped an infant in her car and drove to work and left the child in the car all day causing her death. Her actions, her choices, her negligence (or intention) caused this child to die a pretty horrible death. Forgetting to care for your children is not an excuse for neglect, and damn sure not an excuse for such extreme neglect that your child dies. This death is 100% on her.
    I remember being in a panic when I used to work at an office thinking I left my coffee pot on at home. I can't for the life of me imagine 1, never thinking about my child and 2, when I do think about my child, not thinking "Hey I don't remember taking him to day care this morning. Oh ****!".

    I wonder what those psychiatrists would say about me. Probably that I'm OCD or something. Most people would call me a normal responsible adult/parent.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I remember being in a panic when I used to work at an office thinking I left my coffee pot on at home. I can't for the life of me imagine 1, never thinking about my child and 2, when I do think about my child, not thinking "Hey I don't remember taking him to day care this morning. Oh ****!".

    I wonder what those psychiatrists would say about me. Probably that I'm OCD or something. Most people would call me a normal responsible adult/parent.
    You are going to have to be medicated to address that OCD. And some other meds for the or something.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I remember being in a panic when I used to work at an office thinking I left my coffee pot on at home. I can't for the life of me imagine 1, never thinking about my child and 2, when I do think about my child, not thinking "Hey I don't remember taking him to day care this morning. Oh ****!".

    I wonder what those psychiatrists would say about me. Probably that I'm OCD or something. Most people would call me a normal responsible adult/parent.
    And we dont know that she did forget, or that her routine changed based on any thing i've read. People are assuming her routine changed.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Until the last 10-20 years or so, I never remember hearing of a parent forgetting a child. I never knew anyone who was accidentally left somewhere (with the exception of the movie Home Alone, which was supposed to be a farce). I never knew of anyone getting left on vacation, in the mall, in the hairdresser....nothing. If this phenomena is physical, I'd like to know how often this happened in history? Can anyone name a single instance of a famous story of some infant being simply left somewhere because the parents "forgot" about him/her?
    I looked around a bit, You appear to be correct, I found this graph that shows a big increase
    about 1994.
    http://www.kidsandcars.org/userfiles...roke-chart.pdf

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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    And we dont know that she did forget, or that her routine changed based on any thing i've read. People are assuming her routine changed.
    Yup. I never heard that the child's father was the one who normally drove the child to work. Not that it would be an excuse for me, but for some, apparently a simple change in routine explains neglecting your toddler to death.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    I looked around a bit, You appear to be correct, I found this graph that shows a big increase
    about 1994.
    http://www.kidsandcars.org/userfiles...roke-chart.pdf
    Damn, that number keeps going up and up. I guess all of these chemical brain issues that result in deaths of children left in car seats didn't start to manifest themselves until 1995.
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Damn, that number keeps going up and up. I guess all of these chemical brain issues that result in deaths of children left in car seats didn't start to manifest themselves until 1995.
    I wonder how difficult it would be to tie a child sensing detector to, say the "you left your headlights on warming"?

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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    I wonder how difficult it would be to tie a child sensing detector to, say the "you left your headlights on warming"?
    I know, right? We get a noise when we don't hook our seatbelts. We get one when we leave our lights on. I'm gathering that some people need one so they remember they have kids in the backseat. But I think it may be hard to do, unless cars can have a special "car seat" mode, and it detects a car seat, and beeps when the car stops?
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    Re: Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I know, right? We get a noise when we don't hook our seatbelts. We get one when we leave our lights on. I'm gathering that some people need one so they remember they have kids in the backseat. But I think it may be hard to do, unless cars can have a special "car seat" mode, and it detects a car seat, and beeps when the car stops?
    If you need something to remind you that you have children in the car, you probably shouldn't have children in your care.
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