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    Re: US leaves Europe wide open

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    Never enough money to spend at home, but always able to find more for overseas endeavors!

    I suppose that's the luxury you have, when you own the printing press ...
    For the third time in a row now, the American Society of Civil Engineers has given the U.S. A "D" on our infrastructure report card, and said we need to spend 3.6 trillion on it by 2020!!!!!!
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    Re: US leaves Europe wide open

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    Never enough money to spend at home, but always able to find more for overseas endeavors!

    I suppose that's the luxury you have, when you own the printing press ...
    And maybe owning he foreign central bank might help also...

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    Re: US leaves Europe wide open

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    For the third time in a row now, the American Society of Civil Engineers has given the U.S. A "D" on our infrastructure report card, and said we need to spend 3.6 trillion on it by 2020!!!!!!
    But Russia ...

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    Re: US leaves Europe wide open

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It always concerns me when the U.S. interferes in affairs, such as territorial disputes like it's doing in the SCS. That's always going to be a concern. Otherwise, I'm poking fun of the right wing spin machine who's always moving about the next major threat to the U.S. When in fact, it's our own meddling foreign policy that is the biggest threat to the U.S. Both Russia and China's military spending went on steroids at the same time, when the decider moved into A-Stan and then Iraq. Foreign policy experts are pointing out that USFP is pushing China and Russia closer together. And both of them have decried the threat to global security that the U.S. Dominated uni-polar world is. So it seems to me we create any trouble we may have.
    Actually, Hillary Clinton outlined our current policy concerning the SCS back in 2010. It was a pretty clear statement of policy as it has stood in that regard for a couple of centuries. The only problem was that she gave that speech in Vietnam. That was not such a good idea. So it's not a right wing spin job at all. I understand your beliefs regarding our FP and in some respects I agree. This is not one of those instances.

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    I see one thing missing about the whole missiles back in EU thing.
    Americans apparently gonna attack those missiles they think that russians break the treaty with,on the russian soil.... i hope you al lrealise what that means. Just saying.

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    Re: US leaves Europe wide open

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Parker View Post
    US might deploy missiles in Europe to counter Russia | Fox News



    Another missile issue.
    Failure with European-based ABM system never taught us a thing, but it was Bush Jr. who could't succeed. He just wasn't wise enough to defend his position.
    Russia's attitude to any ABM never changed - "accurate response" to any actions violating their national security is what they stand for.
    Or better - if we install ABM - they install them as well.

    Do we really believe Russia is a threat (Cold War V.2) and why it is so necessary to force them to have us in their sight?
    most of what causes russian agression has been caused by the us.


    if you look at a map,most of the countries surrounding russia are us or nato allied,most of mother russias former buffer zones can be seen as allies of its former enemy.


    then you add in the whole missle defense systems,argued at protecting europe from iranian missles,yet placed at the exact distance to stop russian icbm's.that in itself breaks up the mad doctrine,and forces russia into two options,either to take an extremely offensive stance towards its neighbors,or to nuke its neighbors in retaliation,as the mad doctrine would be broken.
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    Re: US leaves Europe wide open

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Discontinuing our economic war on them might be a good start. It earned us a good sucker punch from Japan once. But then that was the objective. And god knows the fringe right would love to take on Russia.
    We failed in Russia in the 1990's and are now beginning to pay the price.

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    Re: US leaves Europe wide open

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Actually, Hillary Clinton outlined our current policy concerning the SCS back in 2010. It was a pretty clear statement of policy as it has stood in that regard for a couple of centuries. The only problem was that she gave that speech in Vietnam. That was not such a good idea. So it's not a right wing spin job at all. I understand your beliefs regarding our FP and in some respects I agree. This is not one of those instances.
    As pointed out by the Council on Foreign Relations, there are things that the US could and should be doing that would better foster peace and security in the region.

    The United States should ratify UNCLOS; though it voluntarily adheres to its principles and the Obama administration has made a commitment to ratify the convention, the fact that the United States has not yet ratified the treaty lends credence to the perception that it only abides by international conventions when doing so aligns with its national interests. Ratifying UNCLOS would put this speculation to rest. It would also bolster the U.S. position in favor of rules-based behavior, give the United States a seat at the table when UNCLOS signatories discuss such issues as EEZ rights, and generally advance U.S. economic and strategic interests.

    The United States should review its surveillance and reconnaissance activities in the air and waters bordering China's twelve-mile territorial sea and assess the feasibility of reducing their frequency or conducting the operations at a greater distance.

    http://www.cfr.org/world/armed-clash...ina-sea/p27883
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    Re: US leaves Europe wide open

    Quote Originally Posted by tenoh View Post
    I see one thing missing about the whole missiles back in EU thing.
    Americans apparently gonna attack those missiles they think that russians break the treaty with,on the russian soil.... i hope you al lrealise what that means. Just saying.
    Could you elaborate please?
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    Re: US leaves Europe wide open

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    As pointed out by the Council on Foreign Relations, there are things that the US could and should be doing that would better foster peace and security in the region.

    The United States should ratify UNCLOS; though it voluntarily adheres to its principles and the Obama administration has made a commitment to ratify the convention, the fact that the United States has not yet ratified the treaty lends credence to the perception that it only abides by international conventions when doing so aligns with its national interests. Ratifying UNCLOS would put this speculation to rest. It would also bolster the U.S. position in favor of rules-based behavior, give the United States a seat at the table when UNCLOS signatories discuss such issues as EEZ rights, and generally advance U.S. economic and strategic interests.

    The United States should review its surveillance and reconnaissance activities in the air and waters bordering China's twelve-mile territorial sea and assess the feasibility of reducing their frequency or conducting the operations at a greater distance.

    Armed Clash in the South China Sea - Council on Foreign Relations
    Similarly, there are things China could and should do to foster stability in the region, like honoring it's agreements with ASEAN and the 1982 Convention.

    http://csis.org/files/publication/11..._China_Sea.pdf

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