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    Re: Inequality Troubles Americans Across Party Lines, Times/CBS Poll Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by distraff View Post
    In the 1950s and 1960s when companies earned new profits these profits were distributed more evenly between the workers and the top executives. Today most new profits go to the rich executives. The solution is to make companies that do the latter pay a higher corporate tax to encourage paying the middle class more when the economy growths.
    And then you wonder why companies want to leave or invest their money elsewhere.

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    Re: Inequality Troubles Americans Across Party Lines, Times/CBS Poll Finds

    Then why are the dumbest people on television at MSNBC? and Charles Krauthammer, the smartest man on television at Fox?

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    Re: Inequality Troubles Americans Across Party Lines, Times/CBS Poll Finds

    Our Constitution guarantees equal OPPORTUNITY - not equal results.

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    Re: Inequality Troubles Americans Across Party Lines, Times/CBS Poll Finds

    While there is some legitimate concern, I think we have to be really really careful on what kind of policies we enact. We could easily find ourselves becoming a socialist country and destroy our own economy if we decide being rich is unfair. There certainly are inequalities that require attention. Such as the low wages service workers are paid (minimum wage). I don't think a person in this country who wakes up in the morning and goes to work should earn less then a living wage. To be able to at least afford a place to sleep, food, a cheap car, and the minimum lifestyle that all americans should have by having a few luxury items such as a tv, computer and a cell phone. Which to me means no one should be paid less then $12 an hour.
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    Re: Inequality Troubles Americans Across Party Lines, Times/CBS Poll Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    While there is some legitimate concern, I think we have to be really really careful on what kind of policies we enact. We could easily find ourselves becoming a socialist country and destroy our own economy if we decide being rich is unfair. There certainly are inequalities that require attention. Such as the low wages service workers are paid (minimum wage). I don't think a person in this country who wakes up in the morning and goes to work should earn less then a living wage. To be able to at least afford a place to sleep, food, a cheap car, and the minimum lifestyle that all americans should have by having a few luxury items such as a tv, computer and a cell phone. Which to me means no one should be paid less then $12 an hour.
    While it is hard to disagree with the concept, I wonder how you can derive a single "living wage". Do you and the folks pushing this really think that this rate is the same in NYC, for SF as it is in most of the country? If not, shouldn't this be a local versus federal issue?

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    Re: Inequality Troubles Americans Across Party Lines, Times/CBS Poll Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by WSUwarrior View Post
    The only places where income equality exists are the same places that millions die of starvation.


    Competition and winners/losers actually makes things better for everyone....even the losers. Look at how many ****ing losers we have in the US sucking on the taxpayer tit. Our poverty welfare turds live better lives than most people in the rest of the world.
    So this is something to brag about? Poor people in this country living better than third worlders even if some of these poor people are homeless. This is the true spirit of modern conservatism. And of course, never a word about the big kahunas sucking off the taxpayers via subsidies.

    http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsro.../the-fed-audit
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    Re: Inequality Troubles Americans Across Party Lines, Times/CBS Poll Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    While there is some legitimate concern, I think we have to be really really careful on what kind of policies we enact. We could easily find ourselves becoming a socialist country and destroy our own economy if we decide being rich is unfair. There certainly are inequalities that require attention. Such as the low wages service workers are paid (minimum wage). I don't think a person in this country who wakes up in the morning and goes to work should earn less then a living wage. To be able to at least afford a place to sleep, food, a cheap car, and the minimum lifestyle that all americans should have by having a few luxury items such as a tv, computer and a cell phone. Which to me means no one should be paid less then $12 an hour.
    We have found in the past that even very high marginal tax rates do not discourage investment, innovation or labor, while decreasing inequality.
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    Re: Inequality Troubles Americans Across Party Lines, Times/CBS Poll Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    While it is hard to disagree with the concept, I wonder how you can derive a single "living wage". Do you and the folks pushing this really think that this rate is the same in NYC, for SF as it is in most of the country? If not, shouldn't this be a local versus federal issue?
    No, but I think the minimum wage currently in effect is not a living wage anywhere in the country. It is up to localities to decide how much over the minimum wage should be paid. I also think that we need to start forcing large corporations to pay people living wages where those people live. We already know, that they will not do this on there own, which is why there needs to be an increase in minimum wage.
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    Re: Inequality Troubles Americans Across Party Lines, Times/CBS Poll Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by distraff View Post
    In the 1950s and 1960s when companies earned new profits these profits were distributed more evenly between the workers and the top executives. Today most new profits go to the rich executives. The solution is to make companies that do the latter pay a higher corporate tax to encourage paying the middle class more when the economy growths.
    The richest executives can hire anyone in the world, including people not subject to our tax schemes. Do you want people to have an incentive to amass wealth in your country? Or do you want wealth accumulation to be forbidden?

    If the latter, wealth will still be accumulated, just not where you live.
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    Re: Inequality Troubles Americans Across Party Lines, Times/CBS Poll Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And then you wonder why companies want to leave or invest their money elsewhere.
    Companies usually do that so they can reap large profits while barely paying foreign workers. Companies like this are an example of what is wrong with American business.

    How are my ideas anti-business? I don't want to raise taxes, I just want to change taxes to encourage companies to reward their workers fairly.

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