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    Re: Inequality Troubles Americans Across Party Lines, Times/CBS Poll Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Pretty much confirms that republicans vote against their own interests. Dem candidates at least pay lip service to fixing inequality. They do little about it, but the repub candidates and voters seem to be in complete fantasy land. I mean if government won't do anything about it, who else will, the corporate overlords? Maybe the fairy godmother?
    Look at your history books. Only a real revolution will fix the problem.

    The US has become no different with what is happening in imperial Russia where a very small minority hold 95% of all the wealth of the land.

    I work long and hard hours for my money. I don't want to give up my hard earned money. I believe I deserve more money than those people.

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    Re: Inequality Troubles Americans Across Party Lines, Times/CBS Poll Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    And our government should not be in a position to mandate that the toilet cleaning guy get paid as much as the Junior Executive in a private company.
    What you are attacking is communism. We both don't like communism. I just want moderate income inequality and a proportional amount of economic growth going to the poor and middle class.

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    Re: Inequality Troubles Americans Across Party Lines, Times/CBS Poll Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Government exist for whatever purpose the rulers chose it to exist for. Nothing more and nothing less.

    Anything else is hypothetical or philosophical.

    I live in realty.
    RULERS?

    our federal government does not exist to do whatever it wants, you know that's not true and giving me a simplistic reply shows you cannot back that up.
    Anti-Democracy advocate, Mixed government is the only good government

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    second point to be examined is, whether the [constitutional ]convention were authorized to frame and propose this mixed Constitution.


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    Re: Inequality Troubles Americans Across Party Lines, Times/CBS Poll Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by distraff View Post
    Well, you also need skill and hard work to be rich. Most successful people are not bad at all.
    Lot's of people become rich with no skills or hard work. Luck plays a huge factor. I guess it's fair to say that Bernie Madeoff had skills and worked hard though, he was skilled at conning people and worked hard at spending their money.
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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    Re: Inequality Troubles Americans Across Party Lines, Times/CBS Poll Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by distraff View Post
    It is not improving as fast as it did earlier in our history.
    It's improving faster than at any point in history. Technology grows exponentially.
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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    Re: Inequality Troubles Americans Across Party Lines, Times/CBS Poll Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    And you.... are okay with that????

    So you don't care what positions a candidate takes on issues, or what type of representative your area needs because those in power are going to keep grabbing more power at their leisure?

    Do you stay home on election day?

    Or, in this proposition... are "The People" the "rulers"?
    If so... do you believe our government should be a pure democracy then?
    Sorry to burst your bubble. It's reality, what I am "okay with" doesn't matter.

    There is no set universal standard of why government exists. The rulers get to chose that.

    In the US, "we the people" are the rulers. We have EXACTLY the government that the aggregate voters desire. We modify this government slightly ever year to keep up with the changing desires. Our government might not be exactly what any one individual wishes it to be, but no one individual is "the aggregate voter".

    Of course I care as an individual what position a candidate takes, but my opinion doesn't control government. I live in reality world, you live in a fantasy world where you and you alone apparently get to define "the purpose of government" by yourself? Are you King of the Land of Nod?
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    Re: Inequality Troubles Americans Across Party Lines, Times/CBS Poll Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Glowpun View Post
    Look at your history books. Only a real revolution will fix the problem.

    The US has become no different with what is happening in imperial Russia where a very small minority hold 95% of all the wealth of the land.

    I work long and hard hours for my money. I don't want to give up my hard earned money. I believe I deserve more money than those people.
    We have a small revolution the second Tuesday of each November. Some participate, most chose not to.
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    Re: Inequality Troubles Americans Across Party Lines, Times/CBS Poll Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    RULERS?

    our federal government does not exist to do whatever it wants, you know that's not true and giving me a simplistic reply shows you cannot back that up.
    In reality land it does, although it may not in your libertarian fantasy world. I live in reality land.
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    Re: Inequality Troubles Americans Across Party Lines, Times/CBS Poll Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Lot's of people become rich with no skills or hard work. Luck plays a huge factor. I guess it's fair to say that Bernie Madeoff had skills and worked hard though, he was skilled at conning people and worked hard at spending their money.

    lots?

    depends on what that means to you

    some? yes

    the paris hiltons, and kardashians of the world fit that bill

    is that the "norm?" not that i have seen

    but yes, some people do make it to the top through, fame, luck, or other traits.....other than hard work and great skills
    “Most of the shadows of this life are caused by standing in one's own sunshine.”

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    Re: Inequality Troubles Americans Across Party Lines, Times/CBS Poll Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    In reality land it does, although it may not in your libertarian fantasy world. I live in reality land.
    this again is no answer...but a deflection of personal words.
    Anti-Democracy advocate, Mixed government is the only good government

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    second point to be examined is, whether the [constitutional ]convention were authorized to frame and propose this mixed Constitution.


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