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    Re: Terrorist ‘moron’ reveals ISIS HQ in online selfie, U.S. Air Force promptly destr

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    Obviously but how does that make him dumber than the ISIS dude who got himself and his buddies killed by posting that photo.
    Well, first of all you have no way of knowing that he was killed. By the time that building was targeted, I doubt he was still standing there taking selfies. And then further, wouldn't it have been nice to continue to receive targeting info like that in the future. But that's not likely now.
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    Re: Terrorist ‘moron’ reveals ISIS HQ in online selfie, U.S. Air Force promptly destr

    Makes for a funny story but my initial thought was it was foolish to reveal how we learned the location.

    But we don't know the conversation behind the scenes. It is possible they thought the dividends would pay higher by undermining this particular ISIS member by making him look like a fool, assuming he was fairly senior. If it was just some foot solider than I don't think revealing the info was wise.

    It is also possible we learned the location through an informant and are using this as a misdirect.

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    Re: Terrorist ‘moron’ reveals ISIS HQ in online selfie, U.S. Air Force promptly destr

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    Makes for a funny story but my initial thought was it was foolish to reveal how we learned the location.

    But we don't know the conversation behind the scenes. It is possible they thought the dividends would pay higher by undermining this particular ISIS member by making him look like a fool, assuming he was fairly senior. If it was just some foot solider than I don't think revealing the info was wise.

    It is also possible we learned the location through an informant and are using this as a misdirect.
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    Re: Terrorist ‘moron’ reveals ISIS HQ in online selfie, U.S. Air Force promptly destr

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well, first of all you have no way of knowing that he was killed. By the time that building was targeted, I doubt he was still standing there taking selfies. And then further, wouldn't it have been nice to continue to receive targeting info like that in the future. But that's not likely now.
    While you are right that he may not have been killed, there is a decent chance he was and even if he wasn't some of his buddies most likely were and they also lost one of their command buildings as well as all the equipment inside. Now I agree that knowing what we as outsiders know that releasing how we targeted that building may not have been a great idea but I still don't see how that makes the AF guy dumber than the ISIS guy.

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    Re: Terrorist ‘moron’ reveals ISIS HQ in online selfie, U.S. Air Force promptly destr

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    While you are right that he may not have been killed, there is a decent chance he was and even if he wasn't some of his buddies most likely were and they also lost one of their command buildings as well as all the equipment inside. Now I agree that knowing what we as outsiders know that releasing how we targeted that building may not have been a great idea but I still don't see how that makes the AF guy dumber than the ISIS guy.
    Fair enough, I'll not quibble with you about who's the biggest idiot. What's important is that it was useful info kept secret.
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    Re: Terrorist ‘moron’ reveals ISIS HQ in online selfie, U.S. Air Force promptly destr

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Fair enough, I'll not quibble with you about who's the biggest idiot. What's important is that it was useful info kept secret.
    But you really don't know that anymore than we know if the guy who took the photo was killed.
    Also I would be willing to bet that the info released was cleared by those higher up the chain of command. Obviously they are not to worried about it. Seeing as this is what the General does for a living and is quite educated including a bachelors of science in math from the Airforce academy and and masters degree in business administration as well as a ton of high level military education add that to the fact that he is in command of a very sought after position I doubt very very much that he is an idiot.
    Now I am not saying for sure that this was not a mistake it may have been but with the limited info we have there is no real way to tell and anyone calling the Gen an idiot and saying he is dumber than the Isis guy seems more like someone using any excuse they can find to attack the U.S. or the US military rather than an acual fair criticism.
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    Re: Terrorist ‘moron’ reveals ISIS HQ in online selfie, U.S. Air Force promptly destr

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    But you really don't know that anymore than we know if the guy who took the photo was killed.
    Also I would be willing to bet that the info released was cleared by those higher up the chain of command. Obviously they are not to worried about it. Seeing as this is what the General does for a living and is quite educated including a bachelors of science in math from the Airforce academy and and masters degree in business administration as well as a ton of high level military education add that to the fact that he is in command of a very sought after position I doubt very very much that he is an idiot.
    Now I am not saying for sure that this was not a mistake it may have been but with the limited info we have there is no real way to tell and anyone calling the Gen an idiot and saying he is dumber than the Isis guy seems more like someone using any excuse they can find to attack the U.S. or the US military rather than an acual fair criticism.
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    Re: Terrorist ‘moron’ reveals ISIS HQ in online selfie, U.S. Air Force promptly destr

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    How exactly do you figure that
    He's not an impulsive punk kid excited about social media. He's a member of the military who's supposed to understand tactics. No doubt that idiot is a political appointee.
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    Re: Terrorist ‘moron’ reveals ISIS HQ in online selfie, U.S. Air Force promptly destr

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Ok buddy, I don't care.
    In other words you took what you thought was a easy opportunity to attack the U.S. military and went for.

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    Re: Terrorist ‘moron’ reveals ISIS HQ in online selfie, U.S. Air Force promptly destr

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    He's not an impulsive punk kid excited about social media. He's a member of the military who's supposed to understand tactics. No doubt that idiot is a political appointee.
    I would be willing to bet that (idiot) has more education than you as well as vastly more experience in these matters. Not only that he has a lot more information to go on before releasing said statement so forgive me if I don't take your word as to if this was a bad mistake or not.

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