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Bush now more popular than Obama

Do what? There was nothing dishonest about my op.

As for Stillballin, hasn't had the courage to engage me directly in a few years. He will dish out the insults, but then runs like a coward...
Such an upstanding guy and forum roll model.

I don't even call people cowards in this forum.

Yet when SB destroyed your OP, all you had to say was it was a CNN headline.
You didn't counter any of his three sustained points .
 
I don't see why the outlet is relevant. The fact remains that the comparison and conclusion (Bush more popular than Obama) is dishonest, whether or not they're your opinions or CNNs. Would you care to address any of the actual points I made?

Holy Cow... You actually came down off of mount high to address a commoner...

Putting that aside, The question asked if people approved or disapproved of them, and my saying "more popular" is a difference without a distinction that you are using to avoid the topic.
 
I don't even call people cowards in this forum.

Yet when SB destroyed your OP, all you had to say was it was a CNN headline.
You didn't counter any of his three sustained points .

So I called him a coward did I... and you call my post dishonest... LMAO

BTW Nimby, you'll notice he didn't quote me so he obviously didn't want to engage in a conversation.
 
When Obama was elected, I suspected he wouldn't do a very good job based on his beliefs and political philosophies, but with the media carrying water for him like they have and continue to do, I never suspected he would actually be less popular that George W. Bush. To me, that speaks volumes about how poor a president he really has been.





Bush now more popular than Obama - CNNPolitics.com
LMMFAO This is just another reason you don't have clue when it comes to bias. This is an unfair comparison and most people would know it. JAR vs. Popularity are you serious?
 
LMMFAO This is just another reason you don't have clue when it comes to bias. This is an unfair comparison and most people would know it. JAR vs. Popularity are you serious?

It's not unfair Pete... It is what it is.
 
Great. That headline is also rather meaningless and dishonest

1) Comparing FAVORABILITY ratings to JOB APPROVAL ratings is comparing apples to oranges and is rather intellectually dishonest. They are in essence, two very different things. Favorability rating is basically, "Do you like a guy." Job approval rating is "Do you approve of the job someone is doing." Those are two very different measures of "popularity."

2) Almost all ex-Presidents enjoy growth in their favorability ratings after they leave office. They don't have to deal with the media, Congress, the realities of governing and executing policy, scandals that may or may not be their fault, etc. All ex-Presidents have to do is stay home, make intermittent public appearances, not put themselves in a position to do something douchebaggy that will be reported by TMZ, and they'll be fine. Look at Jimmy Carter.

3) A better comparison would be to compare Bush and Obama's job approval ratings at the same point in their respective presidencies. Obama's current approval rating is about 47% based on Gallup. Bush, at a similar point in his Presidency, was in the low thirties.

But I suppose it's easier to grab on to a partisan bull**** headline and not do the intellectual legwork to notice that apples are being compared to oranges than it is to be honest about reality.

This was my initial reaction.
 
Bush isn't president anymore, and he's not in the news every day. Name me a president whose popularity ratings didn't rise a few years after he left office.

Andrew Jackson
 
No telephones, no internet. It must have been painful.

That was back when the census actually had to go door to door for EVERYONE. F that noise.
 
When Obama was elected, I suspected he wouldn't do a very good job based on his beliefs and political philosophies, but with the media carrying water for him like they have and continue to do, I never suspected he would actually be less popular that George W. Bush. To me, that speaks volumes about how poor a president he really has been.





Bush now more popular than Obama - CNNPolitics.com
I have never seen it as a popularity case or popstar idol contest
 
When Bill Clinton left office, 31.6 million Americans were living in poverty. When Bush left office, there were 39.8 million, according to the U.S. Census, an increase of 26.1 percent. Yeah, enough to be so popular. I'll never understand our voters.
 
When Bill Clinton left office, 31.6 million Americans were living in poverty. When Bush left office, there were 39.8 million, according to the U.S. Census, an increase of 26.1 percent. Yeah, enough to be so popular. I'll never understand our voters.

And now there are ~45 million Americans living in poverty.
 
People are only being sarcastic from the GOP when they're called on it.
Then they backpedal with **** on their face.

StillBallin has already called you out in an outstanding manner about YER dishonest OP.



More lies--GOPs began "swift-boating" HRC on the night of the 2012 election--it's what you people do .

Right, and those on the left never besmirch their opponents. :roll: Hypocrisy, pass it on. :roll: :roll:
 
Then talk to CNN about it if you feel that way.

Yeah, I could do that, however I would rather point out that since you have written much on the subject of bias you know Dick about it.
 
When Obama was elected, I suspected he wouldn't do a very good job based on his beliefs and political philosophies, but with the media carrying water for him like they have and continue to do, I never suspected he would actually be less popular that George W. Bush. To me, that speaks volumes about how poor a president he really has been.





Bush now more popular than Obama - CNNPolitics.com

It's easy to like Bush once he has no power.

But yeah, each election we just go further down the barrel. Bush and Obama aren't really different, and we won't have anything different next time either. Just slightly worse than the last.
 
Don't think Obama could help much of what has happened on his watch. Simple fact is more racially compact ethnic leaders with an ethnic-centric world view of geopolitics and war such as Putin and China were never going to respect a mixed race president and were always going to see him as a weak knee white liberal creation amounting to little more than a tame pet politically.

Like it or not that's how many other powerful nations see Obama. As window-dressing by white liberals. They were always going to take advantage of that geopolitical truth and there was little to nothing Obama could have ever truly done to stop that.

that is because Obama did it to himself. instead of presenting himself as a strong leader he presented himself as an apologizer. he presented himself as weak.
no one else did it to him but himself.

that is why no one respects him.

other countries might not have liked bush they didn't like Reagan all that much either but they respected them.
 
Must've polled the KKK. You know it's racism. I never really liked him. I just voted for him because of McCain and Romney. He got us out of Iraq. Yeah, he did get us halfway back in, but only halfway. The women love that. He saved the economy. You can get health insurance. Bin Laden is dead. GM is alive, and terrorism is on the run. Yay. My car is better than yours.

Seriously, after a decade of relentlessly attacking Bush, there must be some long faces in the WH and on the left.

Obama pulled out of Iraq prematurely which allowed ISIS to get a foothold. Now his heart isn't in getting rid of ISIS and his actions show it. He backed removing Ghaddafi and now Lybia is a failed state and a haven for terrorists. He didn't save the economy. The economy recovered on its own despite all the things that Obama did to harm it. You can get insurance but not the doctor or hospital you might like, and it looks like the whole system is in danger of collapse. Bin Laden is dead but Al Qaeda is very much alive. Terrorism is on the run -- currently running all over Iraq and killing people by the thousands.

And, as always, it's Bush's fault.
 
Great. That headline is also rather meaningless and dishonest

1) Comparing FAVORABILITY ratings to JOB APPROVAL ratings is comparing apples to oranges and is rather intellectually dishonest. They are in essence, two very different things. Favorability rating is basically, "Do you like a guy." Job approval rating is "Do you approve of the job someone is doing." Those are two very different measures of "popularity."

2) Almost all ex-Presidents enjoy growth in their favorability ratings after they leave office. They don't have to deal with the media, Congress, the realities of governing and executing policy, scandals that may or may not be their fault, etc. All ex-Presidents have to do is stay home, make intermittent public appearances, not put themselves in a position to do something douchebaggy that will be reported by TMZ, and they'll be fine. Look at Jimmy Carter.

3) A better comparison would be to compare Bush and Obama's job approval ratings at the same point in their respective presidencies. Obama's current approval rating is about 47% based on Gallup. Bush, at a similar point in his Presidency, was in the low thirties.

But I suppose it's easier to grab on to a partisan bull**** headline and not do the intellectual legwork to notice that apples are being compared to oranges than it is to be honest about reality.

That's an EXCELLENT point. Nice.

What happens if both are rated on the job each has done while in office? Oops.
 
Carter's is significantly higher.

Nixon was a crook. Carter was for the most part just severely incompetent. He did make a much better ex-president then president, at least for a while, especially with his efforts with Habitat for Humanity. He was a humble ex-president until the day he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. His ego has been inflated every since. Someone should point out to him that the prize as awarded to him merely as a jab against republicans...just as the one awarded to Obama, despite being nominated only two weeks after he was elected president. He had not even taken office yet.
 
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