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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Another compassionate conservative.
    So you support the state eliminating parents? I'm not sure how to classify that. I'm pretty sure they've made movies about though.
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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    So you support the state eliminating parents? I'm not sure how to classify that. I'm pretty sure they've made movies about though.
    I'm pretty sure that by offering school lunches for free, the government is not going out and rounding up parents to remove them from the home. That may be just a bit if hysterics there.
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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    You do realize this is not limited to Baltimore? They do it in my city. I'm not about to complain that kids are getting fed.
    damn you! have you no heart?
    using tax dollars to feed hungry kids
    they might even do better in school now that they are well nourished
    we can't have that
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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Weird you take that view. I think it shows people's outlook on life in how the view something that is normally considered straightforward.

    I take the view that it's an investment in the future ensuring no kid lacks the proper nutrition during one of the most important times in the development of their brains and cognitive abilities.
    I'm not surprised a liberal/progressive would see value in eliminating the role of parenting in the development of children.

    Under the false banner of "compassion" it make sense such an ideological view would see the state as much more qualified to administer all facets of upbringing and values. The state knows better. And don't you forget it.

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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I'm not complaining about my tax dollars feeding children. Why are you?
    because you are not an asshole
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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I'm pretty sure that by offering school lunches for free, the government is not going out and rounding up parents to remove them from the home. That may be just a bit if hysterics there.
    I'm going to suggest that "hysterics" lives where someone invents that I claimed parents would be rounded up and removed from home.
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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    First of all, we need to be taking care of our kids if their parents can't do it. Secondly, if a parent can't provide food for their kids, that's when CPS needs to step in address the situation. Providing these kids with the food they need is only half the problem, we need to be addressing the issue of why the parents can't feed their kids. My grand-daughter's mother has a very sever case of Lupus and is at a point where she is no longer capable of working until a new treatment she's starting kicks in. So she's been looking at what benefits are available and between SNAP, TANF, WIC and the Oregon Trail Card, she'll be making almost as much as she was as an assistant mgr. at a national chain Rx store. With that kind of funding available, there's no reason any kid should ever go hungry. If a parent can't provide the basics that a child needs, then there needs to be action taken to fix the ROOT CAUSE of the problem and not just band-aid the symptoms. We do need to be able provide that band-aid until the real problem can be addressed, but we cannot make the band-aid teh fix.
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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    I generally don't have an issue with this as it's being offered across the board.

    It helps low income families who have trouble adequettely feeding their kids.

    It helps kids unfortunately paired with negligent parents who aren't adequettely feeding their kids.

    It helps middle income families who would rather save the money they'd spend feeding their kids breakfast/lunch and have them do school lunch instead.

    And it doesn't negatively impact high income families if they want to continue to send their kids to school with lunches or feed them good breakfast.

    Ultimately, it should help with the actual educational process as well, by providing children with adequette food so that they're not potentially distracted due to hunger or other such things.

    Barring the news that the cost for this program is extremely higher than I expect it to be, I find this to be a relatively small thing. If they're opening the schools significantly earlier to accomodate this, then yeah...maybe a problem. But ultimately, I have no issue with the schools providing food for the children during the school day if we're requiring the students to be there.

    Though my preference would still be to not have this "free" but to have it heavily subsidized. Something to where a dollar a day with the student should be able to buy themselves a standard breakfast and lunch at the school. Personally, I felt that having to buy milk or the school lunches actually helped be a facet of my education growing up. You began to learn how to count money, and beyond that you began to learn impulse control, matters regarding cost/reward (do I want to get an extra biscuit at breakfast but want to give up the little desert at lunch, etc?), etc. I'd much prefer going that route than making it absolutely free.

    But I just don't see this as something to get up in arms over.

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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I'm not surprised a liberal/progressive would see value in eliminating the role of parenting in the development of children.

    Under the false banner of "compassion" it make sense such an ideological view would see the state as much more qualified to administer all facets of upbringing and values. The state knows better. And don't you forget it.

    Dangerous ground Progressives have committed to. Better hope the State is always to your liking, because you never know who might be holding the reins of State in the future.
    I was going to go line by line discussing this but I decided against it. There's really no way that I can understand your thinking because it's full of paranoia and dripping with cynicism.
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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    So you support the state eliminating parents? I'm not sure how to classify that. I'm pretty sure they've made movies about though.
    That is an exact quote from me, right? I support the state elimination parents? If you are going to tell a lie, at least tell on someone might believe.

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