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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    "Food-shaming" wouldn't work on me. I was all about my kid's nutrition beginning with homemade baby food, but if they were still in school, I swear I'd pack nothing but soda and Twinkies and other crap.

    But back to the important topic, if children are going hungry, they need to be fed. States and communities need to make this a priority.
    Of course, that begs the question, "if" they are going hungry. The assumption is that they are. Based on what? There is not a chance I would support anything that would cause children to go hungry. They are the innocents, and they must be taken care of. But the line has been crossed.

    Where are the parents getting food? Are they starving? Are they emaciated skeletons with barely the energy to get their kids off to school?

    Of course there are special cases and those absolutely must be addressed. But we are light years away from that.

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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    And Germany has it all:

    High wages
    High standard of living
    High quality of Life
    High union protection of trade workers
    Good national universal healthcare
    Good (nearly free) education at ALL levels
    A minimum wage 1.5X ours.
    A strong stable economy
    3.5X 'exports as percentage of GDP' as ours
    A strong manufacturing base similar to what we once had - and growing!

    N.B. All the things that we've been told can't successfully co-exist.
    Largely made possible because of their minimal spending on defense. We can have all that if we are ever willing to stop being the world police. (And our racism and class ism ever diminishes enough)

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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Perhaps you should catch up with the times so your opinion can come from a more informed place. The answer to your question is it would depend if the lunch they packed, or the breakfast they served, met the Progressive State directives.

    Colorado Mom: I Was 'Lunch Shamed' For Giving My Daughter Oreos

    An Aurora, Colorado mother named mother named Leeza Pearson packed Oreos as part of her daughter’s lunch and says she was subsequently “shamed” by school administrators. Apparently the teachers confiscated the cookies like they were heroin balloons and sent the child home with a stern note.

    According to ABC News, the message to Pearson read:


    “Dear Parents, it is very important that all students have a nutritious lunch. This is a public school setting and all children are required to have a fruit, a vegetable and a heavy snack from home, along with a milk. If they have potatoes, the child will also need bread to go along with it. Lunchables, chips, fruit snacks, and peanut butter are not considered to be a healthy snack. This is a very important part of our program and we need everyone’s participation.”

    Food police confiscate 4-year old’s lunch, bill parents :: Northern Colorado Gazette

    A pre-school in North Carolina has created a stir around the country after it was reported that officials forced a child to eat a school lunch and billed the parent because her lunch brought from home did not meet school standards for nutrition.

    The incident happened at the West Hoke Elementary school in Raeford. According to the North Carolina Journal, the four year old student’s mother, who wants to remain anonymous, had prepared a lunch for her daughter consisting of a turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, apple juice and potato chips.


    Now you may not like my accurate portrayal of "woe be", I really don't care. But when a parents decision on how to feed their child is met by the kind of crap depicted above, and in countless other articles I could post, it is indeed, woe be to the parents who fail to meet the Progressive State directives.
    OK, so this has nothing to do with offering lunch as standard with public schools, but let's go with it.

    You have a Colorado school from this year that took cookies, and then let's look at this.

    "Brenda Dean, the director of Children's Academy, a private preschool program through Aurora Public Schools, said she is investigating the note, adding that it should not have gone out to any parent."

    Dean said it is not school policy to tell parents what children can or can't eat for lunch. She plans to speak to the teacher to find out the situation.
    School says no to Oreos in child's lunch

    So Children's Academy is...dun dun dunnnnnnn PRIVATE. It's run through the Aura Public Schools, but is private. The people in charge said the lunch was fine, the note was inappropriate, and it was corrected.

    So onto the second one. 2012, so three years ago, a school decided that a lunch a student brought wasn't healthy enough and provided additional items. Later it was deemed the lunch was OK. This, again, was overstated and the lunch was later deemed acceptable and the practice was corrected.

    So what do we have in the end here as your proof that they're eliminating parents and woe be the person to step out of line. 2 stories in 3 years. Let's repeat that. 2 stories in 3 years. Less than 1 incident a year. How many public schools are there? How many public school students? And you have less than one a year.

    Oh yeah, the government is really coming for us on this one. Run for the hills and don't step out of line because there is essentially a zero percent chance of any backlash against Oreos.

    This is why your posts are hysterics. It's over-sensationalized tripe that makes it seem like there's this grand conspiracy when in the end you have nothing to back your point except 2 incidents over 3 years, each of which were corrected.
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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    "Food-shaming" wouldn't work on me. I was all about my kid's nutrition beginning with homemade baby food, but if they were still in school, I swear I'd pack nothing but soda and Twinkies and other crap.

    But back to the important topic, if children are going hungry, they need to be fed. States and communities need to make this a priority.
    Food shaming isn't really a thing though. There were two incidents in 3 years both of which resulted in fixing the problem, which was not the lunch. So you could pack all that crap and feel no repercussion for doing so. It's just dramaqueening arguments that want to make it seem like the government is coming for our lunches or some other nonsense like that.

    As it relates to this topic, I see nothing wrong in public schools offering lunch and breakfast for "free" (we'd pay for it, so it's not actually free, but not mandating additional costs for food). I would say, though, that since it is the government supplying the food (which is not required to be consumed), that they would have to provide healthy meals.
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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    OK, so this has nothing to do with offering lunch as standard with public schools, but let's go with it.

    You have a Colorado school from this year that took cookies, and then let's look at this.


    School says no to Oreos in child's lunch

    So Children's Academy is...dun dun dunnnnnnn PRIVATE. It's run through the Aura Public Schools, but is private. The people in charge said the lunch was fine, the note was inappropriate, and it was corrected.

    So onto the second one. 2012, so three years ago, a school decided that a lunch a student brought wasn't healthy enough and provided additional items. Later it was deemed the lunch was OK. This, again, was overstated and the lunch was later deemed acceptable and the practice was corrected.

    So what do we have in the end here as your proof that they're eliminating parents and woe be the person to step out of line. 2 stories in 3 years. Let's repeat that. 2 stories in 3 years. Less than 1 incident a year. How many public schools are there? How many public school students? And you have less than one a year.

    Oh yeah, the government is really coming for us on this one. Run for the hills and don't step out of line because there is essentially a zero percent chance of any backlash against Oreos.

    This is why your posts are hysterics. It's over-sensationalized tripe that makes it seem like there's this grand conspiracy when in the end you have nothing to back your point except 2 incidents over 3 years, each of which were corrected.
    LOL

    Thank you for your opinions. I've wasted enough time with you. Have a nice day.

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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    LOL

    Thank you for your opinions. I've wasted enough time with you. Have a nice day.
    In other words. "****, he took apart my argument and I have nothing to rebut with".

    It's ok, you can run off, you've proven nothing and can demonstrate no more than that. buh-bye.
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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    In other words. "****, he took apart my argument and I have nothing to rebut with".

    It's ok, you can run off, you've proven nothing and can demonstrate no more than that. buh-bye.
    LOL

    If that's what you need to think, I'm big enough to allow you to think it. Have a good day.

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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    LOL

    If that's what you need to think, I'm big enough to allow you to think it. Have a good day.
    I thought you were done, why are you still commenting? Perchance you should go lament your inability to not feed your kids what you want. Even though you cannot prove that's a real thing.
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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    Quote Originally Posted by TextDriversKill View Post
    OK - then don't complain about taxes. Money is taken from you and used to feed someone else's kids because those parents won't do it.
    I don't complain about taxes.
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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Hungry children do not learn as well as well nourished kids. Letting kids go hungry perpetuates the cycle of poverty.
    You make a good point. Anyway, of the things that the government spends my hard earned tax dollars on, this is certainly not the one that I'm going to be bitching about. Funny how the right NEVER complains about how much money we send the Pentagon, no problem sending Israel whatever they ask for. But feed the children right here in America, OH HELL NO, WE CANT HAVE THAT!! Just listen to them here.
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