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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

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    No, well if you make a racist argument then yes, but I haven't seen you do so yet, so no. You have made a hysterical argument though.
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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    Quote Originally Posted by TextDriversKill View Post
    Why are we giving these brats free breakfast.? Why can't their parents feed them a breakfast.? Parents should also pack a lunch for the kids.
    Wow. I know its been said dozens of times on this same thread, but I'm going to say it again. I fully support any program that feeds children. Especially if it is healthy, nutritious foods for our nation's children. People need to eat, and children are not responsible for their parents.

    Furthermore I support any programs designed to feed people. Not just children. Letting people starve or go hungry benefits noone. It hurts society. Nothing can push a person to crime like hunger.
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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    You do realize this is not limited to Baltimore? They do it in my city. I'm not about to complain that kids are getting fed.
    actually, i was looking for something to be pissed off about today. feeding kids breakfast in Baltimore sounds like a great thing to focus my rage on.

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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    actually, i was looking for something to be pissed off about today. feeding kids breakfast in Baltimore sounds like a great thing to focus my rage on.
    I was going to be pissed off about the ongoing drug war, the military industrial complex, privatized prisons and the eradication of the middle class, but yeah, feeding hungry kids is just the worst.

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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I was going to be pissed off about the ongoing drug war, the military industrial complex, privatized prisons and the eradication of the middle class, but yeah, feeding hungry kids is just the worst.
    Why the government is trying to eliminate the parents by feeding hungry children!!!!!!
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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    Quote Originally Posted by TextDriversKill View Post
    OK - then don't complain about taxes. Money is taken from you and used to feed someone else's kids because those parents won't do it.
    You're probably pro-war and never flinch at your tax dollars supporting that. But he'll no, making sure children are fed! Some folk have the strangest values.
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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    La Te Da. Yes, I understand the package has been wrapped in bright shiney paper with satin bows, and filled with chocolate covered good intentions.

    What about the unintended consequences? Progressive polices make parental responsibilities no longer necessary. At one time people would think before having children. Within the confines of the Progressive State, it no longer matters. Just spit out a child at will and all will be well. Hell, let taxpayers cover the cost of parenting from birth to death.

    It's a miracle the human race survived without these Progressive State policies and programs. Dang, how the hell did we invent the airplane, or even get to the moon?

    Sorry, the bleeding heart crap doesn't fly with me. Nor does the typical, "so you want them to starve" blather that usually follows these discussions. Progressive State policies are destroying families, and crushing children. All one has to do is see how these liberal policies have worked out in places like Southern California, or Baltimore for that matter.
    Greetings, ocean515.

    : There is an infuriating article on Yahoo today titled "Lunch Lady Fired After Refusing to Humiliate Students - It's not right!." Apparently in her school district, parents pay for their children's school lunches, and if they haven't kept up on payments - maybe they just don't have the money, or they forgot - the lunches are taken from the children when they reach the cash register, and thrown in the trash as a matter of school policy! The children affected are given a piece of cheese and a slice of bread in lieu of lunch. WTH? Is this what the bottom of the barrel looks like when there are no morals left - punishing children for something they had no control over? (She either paid for the lunches when she could, or just let them have them). This is bull****! She admits she broke a rule she didn't agree with, and she's not going to fight the firing, but is that a reason to fire her...for showing compassion and common sense? Give me a break! This is so disgusting to me that they are throwing food away to make a point, and as for the hungry children - meh! "Let them eat cake!" :

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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I was going to be pissed off about the ongoing drug war, the military industrial complex, privatized prisons and the eradication of the middle class, but yeah, feeding hungry kids is just the worst.
    it sure is.

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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    La Te Da. Yes, I understand the package has been wrapped in bright shiney paper with satin bows, and filled with chocolate covered good intentions.

    What about the unintended consequences? Progressive polices make parental responsibilities no longer necessary. At one time people would think before having children. Within the confines of the Progressive State, it no longer matters. Just spit out a child at will and all will be well. Hell, let taxpayers cover the cost of parenting from birth to death.

    It's a miracle the human race survived without these Progressive State policies and programs. Dang, how the hell did we invent the airplane, or even get to the moon?

    Sorry, the bleeding heart crap doesn't fly with me. Nor does the typical, "so you want them to starve" blather that usually follows these discussions. Progressive State policies are destroying families, and crushing children. All one has to do is see how these liberal policies have worked out in places like Southern California, or Baltimore for that matter.
    We've got two issues here, that I see -

    The first is providing a benefit to those kids, whom for whatever reason are not getting the proper food or nutrition at home. If you don't want to act on this for the ethical issues alone, you may consider the practical: we can either deal with these kids when young, helping them get a start towards a life as an educated productive citizen; or we can deal with them as adults when they are at risk to become a drain on social services at best, housed in the criminal justice system at worst. Neither alternatives are cheap - we need these kids to become productive contributors, not lifetime takers. Either way we, as a society, pay. (and we pay more than just financially)

    Education (while far from perfect) is statistically the best indicator of one's lifetime earning potential - I'm for doing whatever we can to keep our kids at risk in school, and if that means giving the kids a lunch to keep them there, I'm all for it.

    Don't confuse this school lunch program with the myriad of lifetime free means-tested entitlements doled out like candy in this country - I'd cut or curtail many of those in a heartbeat! But school lunch is not one of them; if anything, I'd expand educational opportunities at all levels.

    The second issue is providing benefits as mean-tested, which is often done in this country. I'm dead against this, for the most part. There's a whole host of reasons to not provide meant-tested benefits, and I suspect you know many if not most, so I'll simply state that I only want to see benefits (or rights, for that matter) provided equally for all - we don't pick winners or losers in America (or we shouldn't). And this program satisfies this last criteria well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Mankind should never let the government take control of, and responsibility for, children.
    And your solution for feeding the neglected kids, is what?
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    Re: In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

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    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Of course, you're probably white and come from privilege, so you have absolutely no idea what it's like as a child to not get to eat.
    I can see both sides of this argument. Some of the questions people have:
    Should we feed kids? Will this develop dependence? Shouldn't the parents do more to feed them?
    Should we pay more to vet the incomes of recipients? Would that cost outweigh the benefit?
    How do we then, control the fraud and waste?

    Well, I don't care what it costs, children SHOULD be fed!
    A hungry child does not care about politics or even how much their parents work and make. When lunchtime rolls around they are miserable
    because their stomach is growling and starting to hurt. That is what hungry children are focused on.

    When I grew up my dad left us at the age of 5. My mom did the best she could with what she had. I remember her working her butt off to put food on the table and keep the lights on.
    Because her income was so low, we kids qualified for free/reduced lunches and occasionally, breakfasts (when offered)
    I can personally attest to the huge value and difference this made in my life!
    I know that if I did not have this wonderful benefit my good grades would have not been as good. (It is much easier to learn when you are not hungry)
    Children must be fed.

    (rabidalpaca: Why, you may ask, is he responding to my post? Because I am WHITE. And...like a lotta other white folk, I was never well-to-do or priviledged! FYI)

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