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    Last Task After Layoff at Disney: Train Foreign Replacements

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/04/us...lacements.html

    Instead, about 250 Disney employees were told in late October that they would be laid off. Many of their jobs were transferred to immigrants on temporary visas for highly skilled technical workers, who were brought in by an outsourcing firm based in India. Over the next three months, some Disney employees were required to train their replacements to do the jobs they had lost.
    “I just couldn’t believe they could fly people in to sit at our desks and take over our jobs exactly,” said one former worker, an American in his 40s who remains unemployed since his last day at Disney on Jan. 30. “It was so humiliating to train somebody else to take over your job. I still can’t grasp it.”
    For those companies like Disney,immediately revoke the Visas, impose fines up to 3 years of salary for each laid of worker who was fraudulently replaced.
    Place these companies on a tight leash, paid for by the companies requesting Visas.
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    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: Last Task After Layoff at Disney: Train Foreign Replacements

    Let's face it- outsourcing is tied directly with less wages, the reason outsourcing exists is because most local workers have priced themselves out of their jobs. Business is only doing what it was meant to do which is to maximize profits and minimize expenses.

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    Re: Last Task After Layoff at Disney: Train Foreign Replacements

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/04/us...lacements.html



    For those companies like Disney,immediately revoke the Visas, impose fines up to 3 years of salary for each laid of worker who was fraudulently replaced.
    Place these companies on a tight leash, paid for by the companies requesting Visas.
    I think of all the companies in the US Disney is one of the least likely to get away with something like this. Disney has built itself into being a major component of American culture. They've cultivated that image and it's benefited them. The backlash of foreign labor replacing Americans at an American cultural icon is just insane and an obvious target for major blowback
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    Re: Last Task After Layoff at Disney: Train Foreign Replacements

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Let's face it- outsourcing is tied directly with less wages, the reason outsourcing exists is because most local workers have priced themselves out of their jobs. Business is only doing what it was meant to do which is to maximize profits and minimize expenses.
    Outsourcing exists due to exploitation and the fact there is always someone out there willing to take less.

    The factories in the North east that used to make shirts were replaced by foreign slave labor locked into a room for 18 hours a day and paid pennies. Yeah, lazy Americans not willing to compete with that....
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    Re: Last Task After Layoff at Disney: Train Foreign Replacements

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Let's face it- outsourcing is tied directly with less wages, the reason outsourcing exists is because most local workers have priced themselves out of their jobs. Business is only doing what it was meant to do which is to maximize profits and minimize expenses.
    The H1-B is being abused.
    From the link
    According to federal guidelines, the visas are intended for foreigners with advanced science or computer skills to fill discrete positions when American workers with those skills cannot be found. Their use, the guidelines say, should not “adversely affect the wages and working conditions” of Americans. Because of legal loopholes, however, in practice companies do not have to recruit American workers first or guarantee that Americans will not be displaced.

    Workpermit.com - Immigration - US - H-1B visa
    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: Last Task After Layoff at Disney: Train Foreign Replacements

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Let's face it- outsourcing is tied directly with less wages, the reason outsourcing exists is because most local workers have priced themselves out of their jobs. Business is only doing what it was meant to do which is to maximize profits and minimize expenses.
    So American capitalism is a broken system? I just think it needs ethical regulation to make it work effectively.

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    Re: Last Task After Layoff at Disney: Train Foreign Replacements

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Let's face it- outsourcing is tied directly with less wages, the reason outsourcing exists is because most local workers have priced themselves out of their jobs. Business is only doing what it was meant to do which is to maximize profits and minimize expenses.
    The dishonesty from many conservatives is becoming increasingly apparent...

    "Why don't you increase your skills if you don't like minimum wage...you priced yourself out of the market by asking for more pay".
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    Re: Last Task After Layoff at Disney: Train Foreign Replacements

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Let's face it- outsourcing is tied directly with less wages, the reason outsourcing exists is because most local workers have priced themselves out of their jobs. Business is only doing what it was meant to do which is to maximize profits and minimize expenses.
    "America should lower wages!"
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    Re: Last Task After Layoff at Disney: Train Foreign Replacements

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/04/us...lacements.html



    For those companies like Disney,immediately revoke the Visas, impose fines up to 3 years of salary for each laid of worker who was fraudulently replaced.
    Place these companies on a tight leash, paid for by the companies requesting Visas.
    That really sucks... and the thing is, it's likely to only get worse.

    There are many reasons in my opinion for this kind of thing happening, and happening more frequently. First off, America can no longer compete with foreign companies and foreign workforces. The cost of doing business in the US is high compared to other nations. Corporate taxes are the highest in the world, wages are among the highest in the world and the amount of costly regulations and red tape is immense.

    Then you have to take into account how our society has changed over the last 40+ years. The number of family households has declined from 81% to 66%, the number of people over 25 who have not married has gone from 1 in 10 people to 1 in 5, and the number of people who live alone has gone from 1 in 6 back in 1970, to 1 in 4 today. Less cohabitation and less family homes means less sharing of expenses, so people need more money to sustain their lifestyles.

    Another aspect that effects things today is the double edged sword of technology. Technology has brought some amazing things to the average person, but with more things comes more expense. Just think about the personal items that the average person possesses today compared to 40 years ago. Cell phones, computers, internet access, GPS, Satellite TV, digital audio players, and even things like microwave ovens. Even though cars are nothing new, the number of cars per capita in the US has steadily increased since 1960 when there were 2 cars on the road for every 5 people alive in the United States, compared to now where there are 4 cars for every 5 people today. Then there's the flip side of technology, where through innovation and computer advancements we've watched more and more human beings every day get permanently replaced in the workforce. A trend that will continue to increase.

    Raising taxes on businesses, raising taxes on the rich and raising the minimum wage are popular themes today, but such actions won't help the situation and if anything, will make matters worse. On the flip side, not raising the minimum wage, lowering corporate taxes and reducing costly government regulations will help to keep the jobs here, but I fear it will only be a temporary fix and the next generation will find itself in the same boat we're in today, if not worse.

    I really hate to say this, but unless some drastic changes take place in both our government, and more importantly in our society, things will only get worse. I think we've gotten to the point where financially, our national and societal standards can no longer be maintained for the masses, and unless changes take place in a very substantial way on both fronts, there's not going to be a light at the end of this tunnel.
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    Re: Last Task After Layoff at Disney: Train Foreign Replacements

    Dell and other companies tried the same thing. it backfired majorly. Disney might get away with it for a year or so but then they will have to hire back the people they fired.

    I think it is a stupid move to do.

    these guys only do what they are told to do and you have to sit on top of them.

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