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US Senators call for mandatory reporting of police killings

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US senators call for mandatory reporting of police killings | US news | The Guardian
I can't honestly believe in 2015 this data isn't tracked, somewhere by someone within our government.
How about not just tracking killing but anything else, reported abuses, assaults, etc. and make it visible to everyone?
Everyone should know about the criminals under police uniform.
That's necessary IMHO. It is even a little bit late, do not you think so?
 
US senators call for mandatory reporting of police killings | US news | The Guardian
I can't honestly believe in 2015 this data isn't tracked, somewhere by someone within our government.
How about not just tracking killing but anything else, reported abuses, assaults, etc. and make it visible to everyone?
Everyone should know about the criminals under police uniform.
That's necessary IMHO. It is even a little bit late, do not you think so?

How about leaving it up to the states to decide? That's the way this country is supposed to operate. If the feds want to track it then have them coordinate with the states or simply add it to the UCR system.
 
US senators call for mandatory reporting of police killings | US news | The Guardian
I can't honestly believe in 2015 this data isn't tracked, somewhere by someone within our government.
How about not just tracking killing but anything else, reported abuses, assaults, etc. and make it visible to everyone?
Everyone should know about the criminals under police uniform.
That's necessary IMHO. It is even a little bit late, do not you think so?

This would be great!
 
This seems so obvious to me, I'm a bit blown away that it's not already being done.

Anytime the government kills a citizen or resident, it should of course be recorded in some standardized manner, and open to public inspection & review.

Why would we NOT want to do this?
 
How about leaving it up to the states to decide?

Sorry to disagree.
GOP States are currently bastardizing the 10th amendment worse than ever except just before the Civil war.
Thus the 10th continues to be the civil war amendment.

That's the way this country is supposed to operate.

This statement is what divides us today--states v. feds.
So why haven't states done this--because the feds haven't made them that's why.

If the feds want to track it then have them coordinate with the states or simply add it to the UCR system.

And how do GOP states work with the feds now--Jade Helm ?
 
How about leaving it up to the states to decide? That's the way this country is supposed to operate. If the feds want to track it then have them coordinate with the states or simply add it to the UCR system.

Ah yes, the states. And then when Governer Asshole McGunhumper from ****ing Montana or someplace decides not to count them, we can pretend there's no problem.

Leaving it up to the states hasn't worked so far, if we don't know the answer to as simple a question as "how many people are the cops killing in a given year."
 
How about leaving it up to the states to decide? That's the way this country is supposed to operate. If the feds want to track it then have them coordinate with the states or simply add it to the UCR system.
It used to supposed to operate. Now when the war is thugs against the police it's important for the government to see where the anti-police hate is on the top. Other words, they get prepared for riots.
 
Ah yes, the states. And then when Governer Asshole McGunhumper from ****ing Montana or someplace decides not to count them, we can pretend there's no problem.

Leaving it up to the states hasn't worked so far, if we don't know the answer to as simple a question as "how many people are the cops killing in a given year."

If the police don't report it then a citizen's committee certainly can if they choose to do so or they can elect officials who do report such things.
 
If the police don't report it then a citizen's committee certainly can if they choose to do so or they can elect officials who do report such things.

We tried that in a post-slavery era and during the Civil Rights era and nothing came of "honest reporting by citizen's groups" until such underhanded activity became public knowledge on a national scale. Then and only then were corrupt law enforcement officials brought to justice and changes in policing procedures began to take affect.

Frankly, I'm surprised such reporting wasn't already being done. Law enforcement officials already have to report civilian crimes and the appropriate demographics to the feds. You'd think reporting crimes and abuses committed by law enforcement upon the citizenry would be a no-brainer. :shrug:
 
How about leaving it up to the states to decide? That's the way this country is supposed to operate. If the feds want to track it then have them coordinate with the states or simply add it to the UCR system.

... The day that these police departments are entirely dependent on state budgets, they can let their states decide. Isn't that how it works for everyone else? :)
 
US senators call for mandatory reporting of police killings | US news | The Guardian
I can't honestly believe in 2015 this data isn't tracked, somewhere by someone within our government.
How about not just tracking killing but anything else, reported abuses, assaults, etc. and make it visible to everyone?
Everyone should know about the criminals under police uniform.
That's necessary IMHO. It is even a little bit late, do not you think so?

it would be interesting, proper to keep look over those stats. It also shouldn't be confined to the local police, it should be tracked even for federal level agencies such as the FBI, ATF, HLS, etc.
 
We tried that in a post-slavery era and during the Civil Rights era and nothing came of "honest reporting by citizen's groups" until such underhanded activity became public knowledge on a national scale. Then and only then were corrupt law enforcement officials brought to justice and changes in policing procedures began to take affect.

Frankly, I'm surprised such reporting wasn't already being done. Law enforcement officials already have to report civilian crimes and the appropriate demographics to the feds. You'd think reporting crimes and abuses committed by law enforcement upon the citizenry would be a no-brainer. :shrug:

Maybe I'm misinterpreting what you said but it reads to me like "We tried that during the civil rights era and it didn't work until the abuse became public knowledge and then it worked". Well, that's pretty much exactly what I was suggesting. You might notice that we don't have a national police force or even national police standards for local forces but, on the whole, we also don't have the abuse so leaving things up to the states worked!

Right now we have a small number of incidents that are getting national attention primarily through social media. A small percentage of those events are actually abusive and the rest are totally blown out of proportion. This whole "hate the police" and "cops are racist" crap is about 1% truth and 99% hype. Furthermore, the outrage mongers totally ignore pretty much all of the fundamental factors that create these situations. There IS a crime problem in ghetto communities and there always has been. That applies to whether the ghetto's are black, hispanic, Italian, Irish, Chinese or whatever else. It IS NOT a racial issue. It's a criminal issue and in every case throughout history it's crime that begins with unsavory elements of that neighborhood preying on their own neighbors who are usually of the same ethnic background. The fix for this kind of thing has always involved police activity combined with community intolerance of that criminal activity and the only way that you're going to fix this current "black persecution" crap is to stop pointing fingers outside the community and start putting them to work inside the community. The federal government CAN NOT fix this stuff. It has to be fixed at the local level and with local involvement.
 
How about leaving it up to the states to decide? That's the way this country is supposed to operate. If the feds want to track it then have them coordinate with the states or simply add it to the UCR system.

Why would you think government tyranny would be best investigated by the very ones accused of said tyranny?
 
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