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    West Virginia man sues education officials for teaching his daughter 'religion' of ev

    I'd just like to thank my father for not being a complete fool.

    West Virginia man sues education officials for teaching his daughter 'religion' of evolution - Americas - World - The Independent

    A man in West Virginia is suing education officials for teaching his daughter about evolution, claiming it represents “the propagation of religious faith” and will prevent her from achieving her goal of becoming a vet. In a four-page complaint filed against a range of local, state and federal educators, Jefferson County parent Kenneth Smith said “evolutionary ideology just doesn’t exist and has no math to back it”. Representing himself, Smith accused the defendants of violating the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment, which prevents the state from being biased towards or making laws respecting any religion. Smith said educators had ignored his “accurate scientific mathematical system of genetic variations that proves evolution is a religion”. “Their actions during the 2014-2015 school year affects my child’s future directly through the state grading system to enter college and the ability to earn economic security and a good job in her chosen veterinarian medical field of work,” Smith’s lawsuit said.

    According to the National Centre for Science Education, which posted a link to the legal complaint in full, Smith appeared to be the author of a book called “The True Origin of Man”, which claims to have made “the ultimate discovery” about “the truth of man’s [sic] origins confirmed by DNA mathematical and scientific facts”. The Charleston Daily Mail, which initially reported Smith’s lawsuit, said he was seeking a trial by jury and concluded by requesting a judge declare that evolution violates the US Constitution. It said the lawsuit was yet to receive a formal response.

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    Hahah, OK. I don't see this lawsuit going anywhere.
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    I don't get the evangelical obsession with making 'evolution' into a religion. It will simply be the religion with the most verifiable facts and the most detailed explanation for the development and origin of life. One religion will be able to explain the purpose of fins, the other will simply regurgitate some version of god did it. I doubt he thought these issues out that far.
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    Re: West Virginia man sues education officials for teaching his daughter 'religion' o

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I don't get the evangelical obsession with making 'evolution' into a religion. It will simply be the religion with the most verifiable facts and the most detailed explanation for the development and origin of life. One religion will be able to explain the purpose of fins, the other will simply regurgitate some version of god did it. I doubt he thought these issues out that far.
    Some of the most fervent feel, apparently, that evolution is an attack on their religion. As such, they need to do anything they can to justify either nixing it all together, or introducing creationism into the science classroom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Some of the most fervent feel, apparently, that evolution is an attack on their religion. As such, they need to do anything they can to justify either nixing it all together, or introducing creationism into the science classroom.
    I just don't get the point of it all. If you make 'evolution' (which really is a bunch of different sciences working together and complementing each other's findings) into a religion doesn't that mean that just anything can be a religion? Or does it mean that they don't understand what faith is? I don't have faith in the notion that animals share common ancestors. I know so and can explain it to somebody with arguments that cover a wide range of sciences. I don't have to take somebody else's word for it. I can go out into the world and gather the evidence to explain this. Can a religious person find the evidence for a guy walking on water? What about a deity who has 6 extra limbs?
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    Re: West Virginia man sues education officials for teaching his daughter 'religion' o

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I just don't get the point of it all. If you make 'evolution' (which really is a bunch of different sciences working together and complementing each other's findings) into a religion doesn't that mean that just anything can be a religion?
    I think that Scientology shows that anything can be a religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I think that Scientology shows that anything can be a religion.
    Satanism too.
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    Re: West Virginia man sues education officials for teaching his daughter 'religion' o

    I really really want to read his “accurate scientific mathematical system of genetic variations that proves evolution is a religion”.
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    Re: West Virginia man sues education officials for teaching his daughter 'religion' o

    I think I can find someone that will provide "accurate scientific mathematical system of genetic variations that proves" Kenneth Smith from West Virginia is a ****ing moron.


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    Re: West Virginia man sues education officials for teaching his daughter 'religion' o

    It is possible to teach k-12 level science without teaching evolution and produce scientifically competent students. Replace it with some age-appropriate lesson on organic chemistry.

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