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    Re: Americans Continue to Shift Left on Key Moral Issues - GALLUP

    The OP is just confirming that many old people have outdated values and as they die off, their outdated values die off with them.
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    Re: Americans Continue to Shift Left on Key Moral Issues - GALLUP

    Quote Originally Posted by catch22 View Post
    I go to a huge high school in a southern state and even my most conservative friends identify as socially liberal. I often hear the phrase "I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal so I'm a libertarian". Despite them not know what a libertarian is, they line up on the left socially. The republicans need to change their stance on gay marriage and fast because they will lose a large portion of the young vote.
    History has shown that any politician that relies upon the young vote to gain election is a candidate that is certain to lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And if the Republicans want to maintain power, they'll have to shift their platform in order to keep these people from voting for democrats.
    No, they won't. The people you reference, the young, historically don't exercise their vote. Even when you make it popular and cool to Rock the Vote, they just fail to show up.

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    Re: Americans Continue to Shift Left on Key Moral Issues - GALLUP

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    The OP is just confirming that many old people have outdated values and as they die off, their outdated values die off with them.
    Except they don't. The eldest generation isn't the largest voting block. It's those in the generation right after the eldest, the parents and new grandparents. And as history has shown, the young adopt the attitudes of grandparents and parents when they take the helm.

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    Re: Americans Continue to Shift Left on Key Moral Issues - GALLUP

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    For those too young to know I lived in times where blacks could not drink from the same water fountain as me and there were signs posted above the water fountains declaring this. We went on vacations and "WHITES ONLY" were on gas station washrooms everywhere. Everyone littered and litter sometimes was every where. picnic areas were often pig sties of litter.
    Times change and will continue to change as long as there is time. When I am with a black man my age at work or home and we see young people of all races just doing anything we share a moment knowing this was not possible when we were young.
    I was born in 51 and I can tell you that wasn't true for most states, mostly it was going on in the Southern states. The coasts were largely integrated. My father worked right alongside two black deputies and our town was small. Not a whole lot of black people in our small, lumber centered mountain town, but they worked and ate right along side everyone else.

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    Re: Americans Continue to Shift Left on Key Moral Issues - GALLUP

    Morality has gone the way of chivalry, personal accountability, parenting, and knowing who your daddy is.

    So yeah, this is true.

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    Re: Americans Continue to Shift Left on Key Moral Issues - GALLUP

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
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    Re: Americans Continue to Shift Left on Key Moral Issues - GALLUP

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Not surprising, and not something that really bothers me.

    Two interesting things that jumped out to me that don't really fit some of the connecting narritives to this...

    Abortion is still under 50%. And the only "liberal" moral notion that actually seemed to DECREASE was wearing fur. More people find that to be morally acceptable now (though only 1%) than before. It's the only "liberal" notion that actually went away from the liberal direction on it.

    I also feel like this is...somewhat...missing the point on some of these.

    To me, some of them aren't necessarily "moral" or "immoral" choices. I don't find divorce "immoral". I don't find having a child outside of wedlock as "immoral". At the same time, I see these as things society as a whole should essentially discourage and urge people to make choices NOT to run into a situation where it is needed. To me there is a difference between saying something is "immoral" and saying something is generally a "negative" thing.

    Divorce, as a concept, is negative for example. It's something that, as a society, we should strive not to have in a hypothetical world. Not because people are trapped in unhappy marriages, but rather because people should be in happy ones. Now naturally, that's impossible to achieve, and thus I divorce is necessary and I don't feel like it's "immoral" to get one. But in a general sense, you'd like to see less than more of this.

    I'm happy to see doctor assisted suicide over 50%.

    Definitely interesting to see how things continue to progress, especially politically as you get new crops of people coming off age. I said in another thread, I still think there's room for social conservatism within politics in the next decade, but the direction, method, and message needs to change. It needs to become a notion that's less about policies and more about perception and personal responsability.
    Perhaps the shift of these things from being subjects of morality to now just being 'negative' things, is as indicative of the shift as the percentages themselves. There is no doubt that lots of these things used to be called immoral, even if they aren't now.
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    Re: Americans Continue to Shift Left on Key Moral Issues - GALLUP

    When people are struggling to survive, they probably care less about the affairs of others. The pornography number seems low unless it is like "Yes porn is wrong, but hurry up with this poll so I can get back to jerking off to the internet. I am such a bad, bad person. Somebody should spank me"

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    Re: Americans Continue to Shift Left on Key Moral Issues - GALLUP

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    Read the news lately?
    Do tell us all. Whats the best years to live and how is it those years are better than living now.

    I await your answer.
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