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    Re: Iraq lost 2,300 Humvees in Mosul: PM

    Years ago it was the PLO. Then the Muslim Brotherhood. Then the Taliban. Then AQ. Now ISIS. I may have the order wrong, and I might have left out a few, but the point it if/when we kill off ISIS another group will pop up and take their place.

    Time to get out, all the way out. Let the Arabs and because the Europeans depend on ME oil so much they can get their hands dirty too.

    But as was pointed out. Us being at war every single year is great for business.
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    Re: Iraq lost 2,300 Humvees in Mosul: PM

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    I know that. I also know how inept and incompetent the VA is. I know 1st hand. I know we spend trillions overseas because of BS wars started by BS politicians like 5 deferment Cheney and others, and then when these guys come home they are for the most part, forgotten by those very same politicians, and the VA.

    That was my point.
    Oh...come now...your 'point' is rather transparent. Hw did you feel about that BS war Clinton got us into? And BTW...Cheney didnt get us into the war...Bush did. Do you see him 'forgetting' about those guys?

    You DO understand that the investment in foreign assistance in no way cuts into the investment in assistance to VA support...right? Or that the VA may have problem s that have NOTHING to do with available dollar amounts? That Warrior Transition Units, SFACS, and other soldier support groups are completely funded via congress through a completely separate budget? And that volunteer support agencies exist...always have existed...and and are merely a way for private citizens to contribute above and beyond to what is already provided? That you are really just off on a partisan rant that is completely disconnected from facts and reality?

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    Re: Iraq lost 2,300 Humvees in Mosul: PM

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Newer USA weapons do have computerized shutoffs and it has caused some trepidation in the arms Industries. This shutoff has turned off many potential buyers that do not want their weapon functionality to be controlled by the Pentagon. Other Nations in the arms business have been quick to point out that their products don't have any backdoor switches.
    then let them buy those weapons. better than having our weapons used against us. let it be known that if we're giving you weapons, we can turn that **** off when we want. probably that will mean that they won't want them. good. we need the money for other stuff anyway.

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    Re: Iraq lost 2,300 Humvees in Mosul: PM

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Oh...come now...your 'point' is rather transparent. Hw did you feel about that BS war Clinton got us into? And BTW...Cheney didnt get us into the war...Bush did. Do you see him 'forgetting' about those guys?

    You DO understand that the investment in foreign assistance in no way cuts into the investment in assistance to VA support...right? Or that the VA may have problem s that have NOTHING to do with available dollar amounts? That Warrior Transition Units, SFACS, and other soldier support groups are completely funded via congress through a completely separate budget? And that volunteer support agencies exist...always have existed...and and are merely a way for private citizens to contribute above and beyond to what is already provided? That you are really just off on a partisan rant that is completely disconnected from facts and reality?
    completely separate budget? doesn't it all come from the same source?
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    Re: Iraq lost 2,300 Humvees in Mosul: PM

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    And BTW...Cheney didnt get us into the war...Bush did. Do you see him 'forgetting' about those guys?
    There's a distinction? The lengths you guys will go to protect Cheney, and then you point your fingers are others and accuse them of being partisan?

    Anyway about the other stuff, nice story. It's all 1 source. You rather see the money spent on Humvees, I rather we make less Humvees and give the Vets more help.
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    Re: Iraq lost 2,300 Humvees in Mosul: PM

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    completely separate budget? doesn't it all come from the same source?
    As in ALL from the taxpayers (be it this generation or those 40 years from now)? Sure. But they arent competing dollars. Funds or the VA arent allocated based on what is allocated to foreign equipment sales or even military support. Even within budgets (for instance,the military budget) there is mandated/fenced funding and discretionary funding. Even within the VA there is mandatory and discretionary funding (and the VA received an 8% increase in funding this year).

    Money is not necessarily the only problem with the VA care these days.

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    Re: Iraq lost 2,300 Humvees in Mosul: PM

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    There's a distinction? The lengths you guys will go to protect Cheney, and then you point your fingers are others and accuse them of being partisan?

    Anyway about the other stuff, nice story. It's all 1 source. You rather see the money spent on Humvees, I rather we make less Humvees and give the Vets more help.
    Its not all one source. If you believe that you know nothing about it. And no one is protecting Cheney...merely assigning appropriate responsibility. FUnny how you refuse to do that. Well...NOT funny.

    About that unnecessary war in Bosnia....

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    Re: Iraq lost 2,300 Humvees in Mosul: PM

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    Years ago it was the PLO. Then the Muslim Brotherhood. Then the Taliban. Then AQ. Now ISIS. I may have the order wrong, and I might have left out a few, but the point it if/when we kill off ISIS another group will pop up and take their place.

    Time to get out, all the way out. Let the Arabs and because the Europeans depend on ME oil so much they can get their hands dirty too.

    But as was pointed out. Us being at war every single year is great for business.
    Why wash your hair its just going to get dirty again.

    If another group springs up, kill them too.

    You don't reward them with their own country to rape/pillage/steal/murder.

    If you wan't less terrorists, you establish a response that they can understand-shrapnel and bullets.

    They want to die for allah, and I want to oblige them.

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    Re: Iraq lost 2,300 Humvees in Mosul: PM

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Its not all one source. If you believe that you know nothing about it. And no one is protecting Cheney...merely assigning appropriate responsibility. FUnny how you refuse to do that. Well...NOT funny.

    About that unnecessary war in Bosnia....
    Yeah it is 1 source.

    And Bosnia? We're talking about casualties and wounded vets and you are comparing Bosnia, with what? 40-50 casualties to Iraq, with 40,000-50,000 casualties? You keep right on pointing your finger at other people who are 'partisan'. Because you sure aren't.

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    Re: Iraq lost 2,300 Humvees in Mosul: PM

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    They want to die for allah, and I want to oblige them.
    I would rather see the Europeans and other Arabs oblige them. We've spent enough blood and money in that hell hole. But if YOU want to oblige them, Bon Voyage.
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