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    Re: Rick Santorum says supreme court's gay marriage decision not 'final word'

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    Oh get off it. the only reason cons now want to "get gooberment out of marriage" is because: The Gheys.

    That's the only "circumstances" that changed.
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    People still regard the 1400 rights and privileges of marriage as being a lot more than "nostalgic."
    That may be true for some. But as it is, we have changed a number of factors in society that have led to a breakdown of the sociological instrument as a means of guaranteeing reproduction. As it is extremely expensive as instruments go we need to cut the costs and use them more efficiently. This is not yet as pressing here as in Europe or Japan, but it is becoming so. What makes it difficult is the amount of motherhood and apple pie is connected with it and the amount of subsidies have been stitched onto its coat flaps. But that doesn't make the instrument better. It only makes it worse and more difficult to get rid of. It's like kicking a bad habit like opium.

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    Re: Rick Santorum says supreme court's gay marriage decision not 'final word'

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    That may be true for some. But as it is, we have changed a number of factors in society that have led to a breakdown of the sociological instrument as a means of guaranteeing reproduction. As it is extremely expensive as instruments go we need to cut the costs and use them more efficiently. This is not yet as pressing here as in Europe or Japan, but it is becoming so. What makes it difficult is the amount of motherhood and apple pie is connected with it and the amount of subsidies have been stitched onto its coat flaps. But that doesn't make the instrument better. It only makes it worse and more difficult to get rid of. It's like kicking a bad habit like opium.
    Magniloquent nonsense.

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    Re: Rick Santorum says supreme court's gay marriage decision not 'final word'

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    as a full backer of the constitution,he is wrong.

    the constitution permits equality under law under the 14th,and cannot exclude anyone without due reason.hating gays is not due reason to deprive them of equal protection of the law.


    further scotus granted itself judicial review to interperate the constitution,but if even that is thrown aside,scotus always had the power to rule on whether laws themselves were constitutional,like doma.as laws are under the constitution in which scotus was granted.
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    Re: Rick Santorum says supreme court's gay marriage decision not 'final word'

    WTH is *this* supposed to mean:

    “I don’t advocate civil disobedience,” he said. “I do advocate the role of an informed citizen to try to overturn when a court makes a mistake and gets an issue wrong."

    +++

    BTW - my state has a new Republican governor that also recently announced he doesn't have to listen the State Supreme Court when he believes they are 'wrong'!

    Must be something in the water.
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    Re: Rick Santorum says supreme court's gay marriage decision not 'final word'

    Quote Originally Posted by Doppelgangirl View Post


    What was seen cannot be unseen! To this day, I can't look at the name "Santorum" without recalling it's rather apt definition.
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    Re: Rick Santorum says supreme court's gay marriage decision not 'final word'

    You folks are funny. You think its absolutely appropriate to continue to fight the good fight...as long as it is the cause YOU agree with. For example...gay marriage has been illegal since the country was formed. Did people just accept that or did they continue to fight it? And IF the SCOTUS rules gay marriage is constitutionally mandated then suddenly you expect the other side to just do what you refused to do? You want them to just quit? (well...of COURSE you do. Once it goes your way THEN its settled)

    This is kinda what the argument looks like. Same with the abortion argument.



    Santorum is of course CORRECT...absolutely. The SCOTUS has a ROLE...but that role is NOT God and Gospel. The SCOTUS interprets law. So if the vast majority of states that have been forced not by their citizens but by a handful of judges decide that it is time to pass a Constitutional amendment then they absolutely have that right to pursue it. Will it pass? Who knows. But there is a process.

    Those that are claiming Santorum is wrong are themselves 'wrong', but really...they are just partisan ideologues being snarky.

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    Re: Rick Santorum says supreme court's gay marriage decision not 'final word'

    Of course bigots will try to fight back when laws / SCOTUS rulings recognize equality for people they hate -- it doesn't usually work out too well for them, if history is any guide.

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    Re: Rick Santorum says supreme court's gay marriage decision not 'final word'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You folks are funny.
    And you are outright hilarious.

    You think its absolutely appropriate to continue to fight the good fight...as long as it is the cause YOU agree with.
    No, it is because it is the right thing to do.

    For example...gay marriage has been illegal since the country was formed.
    And slavery was legal. Does that mean it should have remained so?

    Did people just accept that or did they continue to fight it? And IF the SCOTUS rules gay marriage is constitutionally mandated then suddenly you expect the other side to just do what you refused to do? You want them to just quit?
    What is it exactly that slave holders did and with what success?

    This is kinda what the argument looks like.
    See now why your post is hilarious?

    Same with the abortion argument.
    Yea, you got that wrong too. At least you are consistent.
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    Re: Rick Santorum says supreme court's gay marriage decision not 'final word'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You folks are funny. You think its absolutely appropriate to continue to fight the good fight...as long as it is the cause YOU agree with. For example...gay marriage has been illegal since the country was formed. Did people just accept that or did they continue to fight it? And IF the SCOTUS rules gay marriage is constitutionally mandated then suddenly you expect the other side to just do what you refused to do? You want them to just quit? (well...of COURSE you do. Once it goes your way THEN its settled)

    This is kinda what the argument looks like. Same with the abortion argument.



    Santorum is of course CORRECT...absolutely. The SCOTUS has a ROLE...but that role is NOT God and Gospel. The SCOTUS interprets law. So if the vast majority of states that have been forced not by their citizens but by a handful of judges decide that it is time to pass a Constitutional amendment then they absolutely have that right to pursue it. Will it pass? Who knows. But there is a process.

    Those that are claiming Santorum is wrong are themselves 'wrong', but really...they are just partisan ideologues being snarky.

    Santorum is a halfwitted boob.
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    Re: Rick Santorum says supreme court's gay marriage decision not 'final word'

    Quote Originally Posted by Doppelgangirl View Post
    Santorum is a halfwitted boob.
    You should offer to match records and credentials with him. Im CERTAIN you would compare well.

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