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    Re: Rick Santorum says supreme court's gay marriage decision not 'final word'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Says the guy who doesn't care but took issue with people saying that public opinion will never let this fly. We get it man, you're cool and nonchalant about your political opinions. Here, I'll leave you with a nice contrast:

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    Public opinion of same-sex marriage in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    Then...

    Public opinion of same-sex marriage in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    Now:

    Public opinion of same-sex marriage in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    Put that next to measures (public and private) to become more welcoming of gays. Do you REALLY believe anybody on the right has the star power to turn that sort of tide with gay marriage? An issue that doesn't compare to other cleavages like racial equality? Get serious.
    Thats a good yahoo son.

    So...you ARE really excited about an amendment initiative. I can see why.

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    Re: Rick Santorum says supreme court's gay marriage decision not 'final word'

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    He's not wrong. We have three separate but equal branches of govt. we don't live in a world in which the Supreme Court has the final say

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    Re: Rick Santorum says supreme court's gay marriage decision not 'final word'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    WHen it has been tried in the past, there wasnt a Supreme Court decision standing against the rights of the states. BUT...we shall see. In case you have missed it..I have stated several times now...I would hope that they accept the ruling and we move forward. But that does not remove the individuals RIGHT to pursue it.
    No, but seriously. It's not happening.
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    Re: Rick Santorum says supreme court's gay marriage decision not 'final word'

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    actually it is 100% American to vote the way they want to vote and decide on issues like that. the fact that you didn't like the outcome doesn't mean that it wasn't American it very much was American as the people decided which way to vote.
    No, voting against individual liberty based on nothing other than personal religious beliefs is fundamentally unamerican.
    He is correct in a way. the SCOTUS is not the final word. Congress can still act to negate the ruling, but it is a long drawn out process that would probably end in failure.
    Correction: Would definitely end in failure.
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    Re: Rick Santorum says supreme court's gay marriage decision not 'final word'

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, but seriously. It's not happening.
    Probably not. I hope not. But you acknowledge he ISNT wrong...correct?

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    Re: Rick Santorum says supreme court's gay marriage decision not 'final word'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Probably not. I hope not. But you acknowledge he ISNT wrong...correct?
    Yes I already acknowledged that. He's technically correct, because nothing is ever really final. Any law or part of the constitution can be changed.

    But it's just lip service because he knows full well that's not happening. Just like everyone else.
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    Re: Rick Santorum says supreme court's gay marriage decision not 'final word'

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And there is absolutely no reason to believe their polling in this regard.
    There is every reason to believe it if you actually talk to anyone outside those who agree with everyone you believe, outside your political parties/religious denominations. I have plenty of people I talk to and the vast majority of people I know support same sex marriage. This includes a lot of religious people (most of the people I know are Christian). Not believing the polls on this issue show a desire to deny the facts, to remain ignorant of reality. My generation and younger support same sex marriage in large majorities. And even my mother's generation are turning to supporting it (my mother has supported it for as long as I can remember).
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Rick Santorum says supreme court's gay marriage decision not 'final word'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    We'll see. If SCOTUS rules as expected, there will definitely be heat from many states to overturn their decision. AS is currently ongoing, states are still appealing the federal judges decisions which is a pretty clear indicator that they are not all willing to just go down without a fight.

    (BTW...most of those judges that decided on the states laws were not elected judges...they were appointed federal judges)

    Again...I personally hope this is settled once and for all in June.
    There won't be that much "heat" though. It is mainly a handful of states fighting tooth and nail over this issue, not most of those that had amendments in place even. Some were set to legalize same sex marriage except for laws that required them to go through extreme means to overturn their amendments (Nevada requires a vote in two separate elections to go through).

    There are 31 states controlled exclusively by Republicans, and as of right now, only some Republican lawmakers and a very small number of independents are against same sex marriage, and not all Republicans are against it. Very few Republicans are actually for a Constitutional Amendment to ban same sex marriage.

    Polls show that less than half the states have populations where the majority opposes same sex marriage. Republicans are saying that such a proposal is stupid.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Rick Santorum says supreme court's gay marriage decision not 'final word'

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, voting against individual liberty based on nothing other than personal religious beliefs is fundamentally unamerican. Correction: Would definitely end in failure.
    and you would be 100% wrong freedom of speech and freedom of religion are 100% American.

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    Re: Rick Santorum says supreme court's gay marriage decision not 'final word'

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    and you would be 100% wrong freedom of speech and freedom of religion are 100% American.
    ...neither free speech nor freedom of religion cover stopping someone else from getting married.

    Or doing anything else for that matter.
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